Posts by Roland Hughes

1) Message boards : Number crunching : PNW upload issues (Message 52765) Posted 29 Oct 2015 by Roland Hughes Post: That will happen tomorrow. I have to get up and do that in the early morning hours. Have satellite Internet here so "bonus time" is 2am-8am local time. You only get 10Gig/month when ordinary people are awake, but I'm allowed 50Gig/month during that narrow window. When I was young I would just stay up, but now I must set alarm for something like 4am then go to office to kick things off. It has been my experience that one can pull down the shiny new Ubuntu ISO only seconds after "official" release and it __still__ needs to pull down 500Meg of updates/language packs...so...have to sacrifice the sleep.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : PNW upload issues (Message 52751) Posted 28 Oct 2015 by Roland Hughes Post: I turned off new work units on my AMD 6-core machine with SSD and 24Gig of RAM about a week ago. Was trying to be "polite" before wiping machine for new Ubuntu 15.10 release. Still waiting on about a dozen uploads. Had to abort one climate prediction job which estimated it had another 150+ hours to complete as I didn't want to wait yet another week for it to finish. Machine has a video card with 384 CUDA core so kind of odd package would take that long being only thing running on the box. Odd that the upload server is so resource constrained when the downloads seem to happen at full throttle pace. I can give it one more day then I _need_ to change the Linux flavor on that machine for another project.
3) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unable to find msvcr100.dll (Message 52687) Posted 8 Oct 2015 by Roland Hughes Post: Vast majority of home Linux users appear to be "distro hoppers". They load a flavor of Linux, try it for a while, then move onto the next. Many don't think to let BOINC clear out before performing a fresh Linux install. Ubuntu has new releases approximately every 6 months. 16.04 will come out the 4th month of 2016 and will be the new LTS (Long Term Support) version. Mint and the other YABU (Yet Another uBUntu) distros will follow with new releases shortly after each Ubuntu release. Don't remember what OpenSuSE and the other RPM based distro release cycles are. On Windows platforms LibreOffice, FireFox, Thunderbird, and many other programs update independently from Windows. A Windows user with a machine which manages to stay up, can keep current on the latest application updates without installing a new OS. When it comes to most Linux distros, you have to know how to hack a PPA into your source lists if you want to remain current on an application. Most Linux users either don't know how to do it or don't care to. Why should they? In less than 6 months a shiny new release will be out. They can boot the ISO, answer a few questions and have all of the latest stuff. Most of my BOINC machines tend to be spares I put old hardware (like drives) into just to keep running so they don't end up with that mysterious sat-on-shelf-for-months-now-won't-boot syndrome. That is not the case with 2 of the machines right now, however. Ordinarily, I turn off all new work and let the machines clean out over the course of a few days before putting on a fresh distro...unless an old hard drive finally gives out.
4) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unable to find msvcr100.dll (Message 52678) Posted 4 Oct 2015 by Roland Hughes Post: I was aiming for accuracy, not offense. It was _never_ a good IDE and calling the package "visual" was the pinnacle of audacity. There were much better IDEs at the time it was created (in truth the DOS based one it replaced stood full torso above the GUI one forced on developers) and there are many many much better IDEs out there now. Perhaps you weren't there when we had to purchase Nu-Mega Bounds Checker because the debugger impaired a developers ability to debug? Code Warrior, Blinker, Periscope Debugger and a rash of other tools were dragged to market by developers weary of being completely impaired by the tools they currently had. Many of those tools moved off into the embedded systems world where quality mattered. At any rate Java 8 was in the search path ahead of Windows\System32. I no longer needed Java because we were no longer using jEdit in the project, so I removed and rebooted then let sit idle. Same problem with dialogs popping up. At this point I punt. I removed ClimatePrediction from this machine. It can still run on the two Mint machines over in the corner, but I'm not investing any more into making it work on this machine. I quit using Windows years ago because it _always_ has problems like this. Some time in January the remote support part of the contract will be over and so will the life of Windows on this machine.
5) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unable to find msvcr100.dll (Message 52676) Posted 4 Oct 2015 by Roland Hughes Post: I copied msvcp100.dll from Oracle VirtualBox and did a search for rest of DLL files found in BOINC directory. Will know in a bit after rebooting if this fixes the problem. Been burned by this soooo many times in the past. Acronis (sp?) used to be notorious for this back in the day. They would build with a very old version of the redistributable stuff and it would break any machine which had updates applied or something newer installed. MS regularly releases incompatible versions of the redistributable stuff due to bugs or security breaches they fix. This machine is not a hand built white-box. It is an HP SlimLine/Low Profile desktop which used to be the corporate standard desktop. As such it has that HP Update Assistant and other things running which keep the system "current." The problem with bundling the redistributable stuff with an executable package is so much of the underlying OS libraries cannot be bundled. When a non-backwardly compatible version of one of _those_ files gets installed in the "Windows says it must go here" directory, other things break. Looking forward to getting back to working on OpenVMS where problems like these simply don't happen.
6) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unable to find msvcr100.dll (Message 52675) Posted 4 Oct 2015 by Roland Hughes Post: I spoke too soon. While transporting the combine home from the repair shop, these jobs all errored out. Missing msvcr100.dll. Actually, that is not quite true. I had about 20 error windows to close, but BOINC manager says the jobs are still active. Will write more in a bit. The real problem here is that Windows error dialogs would have to improve by biblical proportions to achieve a level universally described as "useless". The dialog isn't showing the manifest values, just saying it cannot find the dll. It may well be finding the dll, but the manifest doesn't match (i.e. needs version 4.3.2 but found 1.2.3) Most annoying one can get this error dialog and have the job continue. Definite improvement though! Previously when the dialog appeared the tasks all aborted. I am definitely on the correct track. Will write more soon. Have to get heads switched on combines and such so we are ready for harvest as soon as it dries outside.
7) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unable to find msvcr100.dll (Message 52674) Posted 4 Oct 2015 by Roland Hughes Post: @Iain @Les, Thank you both for your responses. The problem is indeed the viciously old version of the DLL. I copied the one from Oracle VirtualBox (which was much much newer), turned climateprediction back on in BOINC, and this morning I see tasks which have gotten roughly 5% complete before my logging in here made them suspend to wait for idle time. There may well be many hundreds of computers running climateprediction on this very crummy OS as at least one of you has indicated. Yes, for my personal machines I run Mint 17 as well, usually KDE so I can have both KATE and KWrite, but this machine must remain as is at least until January. One of the many many many many things I've always hated about Windows, which hasn't changed from Windows 3.1 (which was NOT an operating system, just a task switching GUI running on top of DOS) is this very DLL problem. It has gotten exponentially worse with Microsoft's creation of Visually Impaired Studio and "redistributable" portions of the tools.
8) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unable to find msvcr100.dll (Message 52670) Posted 3 Oct 2015 by Roland Hughes Post: Apparently all Windows dll files are supposed to be in C:\Windows\System32. And according to several web site pages, you need to run a Windows command after you install it. This one is probably the simplest: Install a .DLL file in Windows And this one is longer: How to install a .dll file with DLL-files Fixer This forum seems to sort messages in an odd order. As the directory listing I posted in this thread indicates: Directory of C:\Windows\System32 03/18/2010 09:36 AM 827,728 msvcr100.dll 1 File(s) 827,728 bytes Still no love. This is Windows 7 64-bit. I've been doing software development for 30+ years, but I work on real computers with real operating systems which rules Windows out. I have this machine right now because I have/had a client with the most incompetent networking department ever encountered during my career. If any machine which wasn't running Windows loaded a virtual machine on their network it was kicked off. It was fine to have the 8-lane wide security breach known as Windows doing it, but, no secured OS could be allowed to do that. Since I have to keep this machine around for remote support through the end of the year, I wanted to have it run BOINC projects. Now that I __finally__ have a usable off-peak data allowance from my satellite provider, I can once again let climate prediction run on my machines. So far, ever time I enable/join climate prediction with this machine, the packets all fail looking for this DLL. As the directory listing posted in this thread shows, that file exists in 7 locations on the machine. This acts like climateprediction.net is linked with a physical path rather than relying on the OS default search path. Oh, I wonder if this is it: C:\>dir /s msvcr100.dll Volume in drive C has no label. Volume Serial Number is 36B8-9396 Directory of C:\Program Files\BOINC 02/19/2011 12:52 AM 829,264 msvcr100.dll 1 File(s) 829,264 bytes Directory of C:\Program Files (x86)\Hewlett-Packard\HP Support Framework\Resour ces\HPPSdr 01/30/2014 09:14 AM 770,384 msvcr100.dll 1 File(s) 770,384 bytes Directory of C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.8.0_51\bin 07/17/2015 08:52 AM 773,968 msvcr100.dll 1 File(s) 773,968 bytes Directory of C:\Windows\System32 03/18/2010 09:36 AM 827,728 msvcr100.dll 1 File(s) 827,728 bytes Both the one in BOINC and the one in the System32 folder are viciously out of date. I will try copying the newest one from HP to all locations. Not certain I should use the one from Java.
9) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unable to find msvcr100.dll (Message 52669) Posted 3 Oct 2015 by Roland Hughes Post: I _did_ do a Web search AND I pulled the file down from Microsoft AND installed yet another version in yet another place BEFORE I came here. Still no viable answers. Was this ever tested with 64-bit Windows 7? If you look at my directory listing which was also posted: Directory of C:\Windows\System32 03/18/2010 09:36 AM 827,728 msvcr100.dll 1 File(s) 827,728 bytes
10) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unable to find msvcr100.dll (Message 52648) Posted 2 Oct 2015 by Roland Hughes Post: I _did_ do a Web search AND I pulled the file down from Microsoft AND installed yet another version in yet another place BEFORE I came here.
11) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unable to find msvcr100.dll (Message 52638) Posted 29 Sep 2015 by Roland Hughes Post: I recently installed the Windows version of BOINC on Windows 7 64-bit machine which already had Oracle Virtualbox on it. I normally run boinc on my Linux machines, but am forced to keep this machine on Windows for a while. Whenever I add climateprediction project to this machine I have about a dozen or so error dialogs in the morning saying it cannot find msvcr100.dll. There are many copies of this in various locations on my machine. C:\>dir /s msvcr100.dll Volume in drive C has no label. Volume Serial Number is 36B8-9396 Directory of C:\Program Files\BOINC 02/19/2011 12:52 AM 829,264 msvcr100.dll 1 File(s) 829,264 bytes Directory of C:\Program Files\Oracle\VirtualBox 07/10/2015 01:21 PM 836,256 msvcr100.dll 1 File(s) 836,256 bytes Directory of C:\Program Files\Oracle\VirtualBox\x86 07/10/2015 01:21 PM 836,256 msvcr100.dll 1 File(s) 836,256 bytes Directory of C:\Program Files (x86)\Hewlett-Packard\HP Support Framework\Resour ces\HPPSdr 01/30/2014 09:14 AM 770,384 msvcr100.dll 1 File(s) 770,384 bytes Directory of C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.8.0_51\bin 07/17/2015 08:52 AM 773,968 msvcr100.dll 1 File(s) 773,968 bytes Directory of C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.8.0_51\bin\plugin2 07/17/2015 08:52 AM 773,968 msvcr100.dll 1 File(s) 773,968 bytes Directory of C:\Windows\System32 03/18/2010 09:36 AM 827,728 msvcr100.dll 1 File(s) 827,728 bytes Total Files Listed: 7 File(s) 5,647,824 bytes 0 Dir(s) 460,096,380,928 bytes free C:\> Where does it need to be for climateprediction to find?