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1) Questions and Answers : Windows : help migrating to new computer (Message 28987)
Posted 26 May 2007 by old_user62278
Post:
I\'m migrating over to a new computer. Is the process for getting BOINC and climate prediction over to the new system the same as for a backup, or is there an easier way?

I can stop the other projects, so that that data is not lost, but I don\'t want to lose 1000 hours of work here.

Thanks for any help.
2) Questions and Answers : Preferences : boinc Vs. Getright = 2 down, manual reset (Message 12831)
Posted 24 May 2005 by old_user62278
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Hi,

Amazing! I opted out of the climate prediction project, and my system is not only stable again, but so stable it's boring.

If anyone ever reports an update or more stability, I'll be happy to rejoin.

'Guess I'll go over to the Einstein project; I've heard good reviews there.

Ralph
3) Questions and Answers : Preferences : boinc Vs. Getright = 2 down, manual reset (Message 11922)
Posted 19 Apr 2005 by old_user62278
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Hi,

I give up - between the program errors and the software crashes, it takes too much to nurse it along.

Since I am interested, I'll check back if the program is updated to work with common hardware and software.

Ralph
4) Questions and Answers : Preferences : boinc Vs. Getright = 2 down, manual reset (Message 11899)
Posted 18 Apr 2005 by old_user62278
Post:
Hello,

I stand corrected.

My system had been stable for a number of months, even though I add and remove software regularly - until recently. No other program has even caused even a blink, again, until recently.

I've had no 'hardware hangs' since the last blackout, and that was 2 years ago.
As I said, I'm due for an upgrade.
I've some experience in home computer maintenance, having worked with Compaq for a couple years. I wouldn't recommend most of what I scanned in the posted links to any but very experienced technicians. Even with some knowledge of it, I don't believe one should push any system to its limits. Almost none are designed for it.

I suppose I'll bash away at it until the next crash.

bowing out,
Ralph

> Ralph,
> The program was originally written for a 64bit supercomputer, over 20 or more
> years. The version running
> on desktops is the same thing, with a few mods to get it to work on them. Just
> because the programmers
> used a compiler from Intel for this, doesn't mean that AMD processors don't
> work.
> Lots of people use them with success. And there are people with Intel
> processors who have problems.
> Some other recent problems are with BOINC not working with ATI cards. Other
> people have hardware problems.
...
5) Questions and Answers : Preferences : boinc Vs. Getright = 2 down, manual reset (Message 11883)
Posted 17 Apr 2005 by old_user62278
Post:
Hi,

Well, I sort of got my answer.

I'm told the BOINC climate prediction software was written to optimize for Pentium processors. Unfortunately, my system is not qualified, and I, along with anyone else that was willing to participate and didn't know this, either tolerates the errors and crashes, or is forced to opt into another project.

With nothing other than my virus software and BOINC running, I got the 'blue screen of death' last night.

I wonder how long it'll be before I choose another option.
I do appreciate, however, the prompt and candid response.

Ralph

new signature: If I get good service, I tell 10 people
If I get bad service, I tell 10 people
6) Questions and Answers : Preferences : boinc Vs. Getright = 2 down, manual reset (Message 11855)
Posted 16 Apr 2005 by old_user62278
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Hi,

I just had a spectacular crash with both these programs running.

Both were tagged 'not responding' in Win98SE.

I'll try to keep them apart, and see how things develop.

Anyone else having these issues?

Ralph
7) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Is this normal? -error box, disk usage (Message 11854)
Posted 16 Apr 2005 by old_user62278
Post:
Hi again,

Well, I seem to be still running. (?)
The client contacted the server, and now my disk usage is up to 140 MB.
I'm not sure if I'm on different data, or continuing on.
OK, the .zip file numbers are different, so I'm on to another one, right?

I know the problems of processor differences from way back in the '80's.
In the local programming group for Texas Instruments, we had some very
talented local people manage to cope with the three different processor models
in the pseudo-assembly of the time.

I'm looking at upgrading in the foreseeable future, so I'll take the
opportunity to check the different processors. This one WAS a bargain
3 years ago...

Thanks again; I'll keep pluggin' away!

Ralph

> Hi ralph
> The -5 error is, apparently, an all purpose one. One of problems labeled with
> it, is a negative pressure calculation
> in one of the many cells into which the atmosphere is divided. A message to
> this effect is written into one of the
> files in the failed model. I had one soon after starting, but have never gone
> back to look.
>
> All I can suggest is keep trying.
>
> More humor: I see you have AMD processors. The current fortran compiler is an
> Intel one, which favors Intel
> processors over AMD in terms of speed. And the joke is: The problem is "No
> Intel Inside".
>
> One wonders though, if it also doesn't handle some instructions properly in
> AMD processors, as a lot of users with
> problems have one. Latest rumor is that the programmer has gotten hold of a
> 64bit compiler.
&gt; Watch this space. Or rather, <a> href="http://www.climateprediction.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=2858"&gt; THIS</a>
&gt; space!
&gt;
&gt; Les
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
8) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Is this normal? -error box, disk usage (Message 11837)
Posted 15 Apr 2005 by old_user62278
Post:
Thanks Les,

Well, I got my answer a little later in the night.

"04/14/2005 07:05:12 PM|climateprediction.net|Unrecoverable error for result 1nu7_000098346_0 ( - exit code -5 (0xfffffffb))"

I'll try wading through the FAQ while this next attempt runs.
Do the failed attempts help any?
I appreciate the humour, having trained in programming.

Thanks again for the prompt reply!

Ralph


&gt; Hi Ralph
&gt; Welcome to the project.
&gt;
&gt; Problems with Win98 were only fixed about last October. They have reoccurred
&gt; recently with the new, 'signed',
&gt; versions of hadsm, V4.10 on. Why, and when/if this will be fixed again, is
&gt; unknown. The programming effort at
&gt; the moment is going to the newer, more complex phases of the experiment. This
&gt; probably won't change until a
&gt; second programmer is appointed.
&gt;
&gt; If a model keeps running, OK. If not, you may be out of luck. For better help,
&gt; copy and paste the error messages here.
&gt;
&gt; My twin models take about 5 weeks/700 hours to complete on a P4 3.2G machine.
&gt; Disk space:
&gt; about 700Megs per processor. (So 1,400M for HT machines).
&gt; Plus about 330Megs per completed model, in the form of lots of zipped files.
&gt; Plus some for the programs.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Normal? I don't think we have a 'normal' here. :)
&gt; But you could try the FAQ to the left of this message. And the Climate Science
&gt; pages, (also to the left), if you want more on why this is such a large, slow
&gt; project.
&gt; And there is the Climateprediction.net discussion forum, where there lots of
&gt; discussions (what else?) on all manner of subjects.
&gt;
&gt; Les
9) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Is this normal? -error box, disk usage (Message 11832)
Posted 15 Apr 2005 by old_user62278
Post:
Hi,

I've been running 3 projects on BOINC, and only have questions here.

Running Win98SE, BOINC 4.25 on a 1.5 processor clocked at 1.7 at the store.

The climate project occasionally pops up an error box, loaded with UNKNOWNs, and then goes on.

The projected time to completion jumps and falls alternately, and the disk space has jumped from about 55MB when I first noticed it, to 110 now.
(lots of space left - GBs)

First question: are the error boxes causing problems?
Second: will the disk usage keep increasing?

I guess overall, my question is: Is this normal?
Is there a place where one could find a normal storyline on this project?

Ralph




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