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Windows :
Visual Fortran Run-Time Error
(Message 35003)
Posted 16 Sep 2008 by old_user519896 Post: Hello I have been getting this same kind of message (error 38, kernel32) for a few days. I have successfully crunched one task before, without any message. Nothing has changed on my system, but I did change one thing in the BOINC options: I told it to suspend calculations instead of calculating all the time, although I am not sure the error appeared exactly when I changed this option or if this is a coincidence. I am using XP Home SP3, Avira AntiVir PE and Outpost Firewall on an ASUS laptop. No Messenger, the laptop is just standing idle, and I am not using any screen saver (Boinc or other). When I set the calculation mode to Idle, the message seems to reappear each time calculations resume, but strangely the message box closes itself as soon as I move the mouse pointer. If I change the calculation mode back to continuous, the error appears even more frequently and I have to close it manually. Another strange thing is that Boinc seems to be trickling, as if the error dd not stop calculations. Update: I rebooted the laptop, restarted Boinc in continuous mode and the error disappeared. I switched back to idle mode and still got no error... |
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Windows :
Have I mixed up Tasks / Work units
(Message 34513)
Posted 5 Aug 2008 by old_user519896 Post: Thanks for all these informations! |
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Windows :
Have I mixed up Tasks / Work units
(Message 34505)
Posted 5 Aug 2008 by old_user519896 Post: ... \"on fast desktops\"! mine is a 2 years old Pentium M. It is my best computer. At that time, dual cores were very new and very hot - physically. The laptop is working 24/7 and it is doing absolutely nothing else, so I don\'t think I can do much better now. The new task is running very fast, I guess it is a very small one, but the previous task was so long I wasn\'t even sure it would be finished by the limit (around 10 years). I believe the limit does not really exist, so I was not worried about that, but frankly, who can tell if cpdn will still be doing something in 10 years? I wonder if the announced estimated duration was not wrong: I started the task on an even older (5 years) and slower laptop. Although the trickles were more frequent after I switched, the estimated duration stayed about the same. |
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Windows :
Have I mixed up Tasks / Work units
(Message 34503)
Posted 5 Aug 2008 by old_user519896 Post: Thanks for the answer. I\'m a bit unsure of what you meant by \"completion\" since Boinc was telling me before switching to the new task that the old one was going to need a few years to complete. But I am happy because - you confirmed that what had been accomplished could of use - the new task has already reached 30% in one week, which means I am pretty sure I will complete it without any problem :-) |
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Windows :
Have I mixed up Tasks / Work units
(Message 34501)
Posted 5 Aug 2008 by old_user519896 Post: Sorry, but I must say you are probably both wrong. Here is the snipped sequence of messages I got one week ago: 26/07/2008 14:45:20|climateprediction.net|Sending scheduler request: To send trickle-up message. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks I don\'t know if the way the server handles results from \"Compute error\" tasks changed since both of you checked this or if I had another problem, but I know one thing: if ever a task crashes and BOINC loads a new task, I won\'t try to restore, I\'ll let BOINC work on his new one! One question: is the partially accomplished work of any use to CPDN? |
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Windows :
Have I mixed up Tasks / Work units
(Message 34254)
Posted 10 Jul 2008 by old_user519896 Post: Absolutely. As long as your task continues to return trickles and upload result files the CPDN server will accept them and grant you credits (the page for your task shows a trickle was received last night). Thanks. I don\'t care about the credits, I am doing it for the results (as we say in French, we are all in the same boat here). I had seen that the server had received the trickle but I was worried the server might not use my results, which would mean I was burning watts for nothing and wasting calculation time. Thanks for your answer. |
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Windows :
Have I mixed up Tasks / Work units
(Message 34252)
Posted 10 Jul 2008 by old_user519896 Post: Hello I was happily computing until a few days ago. I forgot that BOINC was running and I shut my computer down. Ouch. I had reached 4% of my task :-(. Next morning I fired up my computer, restarted BOINC, saw him restart computation and forgot about it. But when I checked again a few hours later, I discovered BOINC had decided that my previous task was invalid and had loaded a new one. I felt that losing days of computation was unbearable, so I stopped BOINC, reloaded the last backup and restarted it. What I hadn\'t seen, though, is that the old task/work unit was flagged \"over\"/\"client error\"/\"compute error\" on the server too. Now I have this strange situation: BOINC is trickling but in an invalid task/work unit. Is this any use? |
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Windows :
Is my computer working uselessly?
(Message 34000)
Posted 3 Jun 2008 by old_user519896 Post: Funny, I just found this out! I was using 7zip (command line version of course) to compress and I saw that 7zip complained that some files were still locked (although in the BOINC GUI the project is suspended). I believe there are some zip switches which could solve the lock issue, but I\'d rather compress when all locks are removed. So is the procedure Suspend-then-Exit completely ok? Is it any use to do boinccmd --project http://climateprediction.net suspend boinccmd --quit (zip) boincmgr or is --quit enough ... or is there something else required? |
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Windows :
Is my computer working uselessly?
(Message 33993)
Posted 3 Jun 2008 by old_user519896 Post: Thanks for the idea, JIM. To make things easier, I just created a small batch file which suspends, backups and restarts the project. Now that I know how to do it, I will create another to suspend and backup BOINC before shutting off the computer. I believe I saw tools that allow you to launch tasks before closing Windows. |
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Windows :
Is my computer working uselessly?
(Message 33988)
Posted 2 Jun 2008 by old_user519896 Post: If I continue at my current rate, my next download should be in about 270 days (plus the unplanned but unavoidable delays). I guess I have time enough to choose an easier job for next time :-D |
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Windows :
Is my computer working uselessly?
(Message 33986)
Posted 2 Jun 2008 by old_user519896 Post: Thanks for all your answers, everyone. Frankly, when I calculated the number of days which I would need to finish my task, I started thinking about quitting, but the help I am getting here makes me want to stay on board. I like the graphics explanation better too, but I want to be sure. Now that I know there is a way to backup and recover from a crash, I am going to check if the interface is the culprit as soon as I have a little time. |
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Windows :
Is my computer working uselessly?
(Message 33970)
Posted 1 Jun 2008 by old_user519896 Post: Here is where I am, now: - I used a memcheck86 and superpi (32M) without finding anything abnormal (I did not expect to find anything since I had not experienced any crashes on this machine). If my new task crashes too, I\'ll test Prime95, just to be sure. - Since the hardware did not seem to be the culprit, I attacked the firewall. Here is what I did:
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Windows :
Is my computer working uselessly?
(Message 33965)
Posted 31 May 2008 by old_user519896 Post: Ah, at least I feel we are going somewhere! I like that! There are a number of common errors which cause many people problems. The first is the Windows Stop message (appears as a Microsoft Send / Don\'t Send dialogue, and -1073741819 in the log) I believe I have something like it: I found this - exit code -1073741819 (0xc0000005) in stderr.out. BUT I don\'t have any dialog. I am using XP SP3, maybe is it related. Anyhow, this made me understand that my issue could be firewall- or rather kerio-related. I found here some infos about Kerio and I set my rules accordingly. I will check tomorrow if this solves the issue and report here. |
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Windows :
Is my computer working uselessly?
(Message 33961)
Posted 31 May 2008 by old_user519896 Post: Thanks, it\'s much much clearer, now. I hope the aborted tasks are not lost. And I am a bit disappointed by the lack of hints about what is going wrong. I suppose there is nothing you can do about it, but it is frustrating when a software aborts without any information about why it did so. I checked the whole directory tree without finding anything. I found a stderr_um.txt, but it is empty :( If tomorrow\'s job does not work properly, I\'m going to unsubscribe from climateprediction; consuming watts uselessly is definitely not a way to help climate! |
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Windows :
Is my computer working uselessly?
(Message 33959)
Posted 31 May 2008 by old_user519896 Post: Thanks for your answer. Your machine is crashing every result you have tried to crunch. The crashes are all the -107 crashes, which are usually hardware related. Sorry, I don\'t see the crashes as such in the Messages pane. All I see are \"Started download ... / Finished download ... / Starting ... / Starting task ... / Computation for ... finished \" and then the \"Output ... absent\" messages. Nothing I recognize as error messages (except for \"absent\"). Is this as expected? I noticed you have a mobile CPU, is this a laptop? I also noticed it has a shared memory space for video, are you using the screen saver? Your machine has a light amount of memory for this project. Yes it is a laptop. Sorry, that\'s all I have to offer :-( I don\'t use the BOINC screen saver, though. I used the standard XP screen saver, but I just switched to the empty screen screen saver to see if it improves memory usage. If a laptop, get it off the \"desk\". If you can use something to raise it a little and allow it to \"breath\" more, or better yet buy a laptop cooler. Make sure all the airflow spots are free of dust. I don\'t experience any crash. I own two laptops but I currently use this one for BOINC because the other one is having stability issues (probably OS-related) and I use this one to remotely access (TS client) a remote server, so it has more CPU time available. Since I use this laptop to access to my work, I can assure you that any crash would be immediately noticed! I just noticed your speeds are low for that machine... it is having issues. Make sure you do some of the above cleaning / testing. I am going to send the other laptop to be fixed. When it comes back, I reinstall the OS and switch to it. Good luck, and know that not all machines can handle CPDN. Thanks. |
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Questions and Answers :
Windows :
Is my computer working uselessly?
(Message 33957)
Posted 31 May 2008 by old_user519896 Post: Hello. I\'m new to BOINC. I registered on 2008-05-28 and I don\'t see anything change on my account (3 days later), my quota is stuck at 1 per day and I see messages like \"Output file hadsm3fub_jotf_005950294_7_2.zip for task hadsm3fub_jotf_005950294_7 absent\". Is everything ok or is there a problem and how can I solve it? -- Frederic |
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