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1) Message boards : Number crunching : Why doesn\'t BOINC work? (Message 8900)
Posted 8 Feb 2005 by Profile old_user44065
Post:
Hi Everyone,

Since my last post about the rebooting BOINC problem, several responses have been received, and I have listed them below.

In response:

1) I have no idea what ‘classic cpdn’ but I presume it is a different program for distributed computing and processing climate models. If all else fails I will see if that will work.
2) If I set it to no doesn’t that mean I have to leave the computer on just to run the model? I think it is important for BOINC to run in the background while mu computer is in use for other things in the foreground. Nevertheless, this may a be an interesting test of BOINC’s functionality.
3) I don’t know the version of BOINC that was installed, but it is whatever was available for download a week ago. I am running XP with all upgrades. This problem does not occur with any other software installed on my computer. How do I check the events viewer? I have run memtest on the computer which didn’t show any errors, and have uninstalled and installed BOINC several times, which presumably means it has been installed at different places on the hard drive.
4) At least I don’t have to worry about over-clocking, apparently.

Any further ideas or advice about the information I have provided?

Regards

Xiansheng



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1) My computer turned out to be no good for boinc, and whatever I did, the model crashed. So I uninstalled boinc, making sure there were no remnants of it in files, but left my registration valid. I then installed classic cpdn (again, because I was using it last year) and am now on the second model.

So problems with boinc don't mean you have to quit cpdn.
2) What do you have set for 'Do work while computer is in use?'
Setting it to NO may help.
3) Could you tell us the version of BOINC that you installed, and also the operating system that you are using?

I have to admit that I'm surprised that the computer gets stuck in a reboot cycle.
Presuming XP/2000/NT, does it reboot after you've logged in?
Did you try to install as a service?
Are there any events in event viewer that might explain what is happening when your computer starts?
Have you tried checking your disk for errors? It may be that the application is installed into a bad sector.
¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬4) If you don't know if you are over-clocking, then you aren't. It involves some special steps in your BIOS and can't be done accidentally.

That rebooting is very mysterious. Does it behave similarly with other BOINC projects or other non-BOINC distributed computing?
2) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC reboots repeatedly (Message 8835)
Posted 7 Feb 2005 by Profile old_user44065
Post:
Hi Everyone,

I am keen to use BOINC but thwarted by a rebooting problem. It appears that BOINC runs fine after installation until I run Microsoft Office 2003 Excel (and perhaps other programs of this suite). However, once Excel has run, BOINC cause the computer to re-boot everytime the computer has finished booting, regardless of whether Excel is actually running.

It may be that I am mistaken about the influence of Microsoft Office 2003 software, but that is how it appears.

Two subscribers have offered suggestions for this problem. One was that the computer has data-writing errors, but I tried memtest and found no errors over a 300% test.

Another was that computer may be over-clocking. How can I check and fix this if applicable?

I run Windows XP with all upgrades, on a fairly fast AMD processor. I can provide better details if anyone needs them to solve this problem.

All help appreciated.

Regards

Xiansheng

3) Message boards : Number crunching : Why doesn\'t BOINC work? (Message 8785)
Posted 7 Feb 2005 by Profile old_user44065
Post:
Hi Everyone,

I am keen to use BOINC but thwarted by a rebooting problem. It appears that BOINC runs fine after installation until I run Microsoft Office 2003 Excel (and perhaps other programs of this suite). However, once Excel has run, BOINC cause the computer to reboot everytime the computer has finished booting.

It may be that I am mistaken about the influence of Microsoft Office 2003 software, but that is how it appears.

Two subscribers have offered suggestions for this problem. One was that the computer has data-writing erros. I tried memtest and found no errors over a 300% test.

Another was that computer may be over-clocking. How do I check and fix this if applicable?

All help appreciated.

Regards

Xiansheng
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Why doesn\'t BOINC work? (Message 8722)
Posted 6 Feb 2005 by Profile old_user44065
Post:
Hi Thyme Lawn

Thanks for your advice.

> I suspect that Marj has already provided the answer to this one, and that
> BOINC is running silently in your taskbar.

Correct.

> > there have been problems getting the screen saver to work.

Now fixed.

With regard to rebooting, you queried whether I was overclocking. How can I test for this?

Regads

Xiansheng
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Why doesn\'t BOINC work? (Message 8721)
Posted 6 Feb 2005 by Profile old_user44065
Post:
HI,

Thanks for your advice. I ran the memtest and found over 300% that there were no errors.

The other problems that I mentioned have now been solved thanks to advice I obtained from other respondents. Rebooting remains the only problem.

As regards the re-booting, closer obsrvation revealed the following behaviour:

I installed BOINC and it ran perfectly. After closing it down a couple of times, I used Micrsoft Office 2003 Excel, and the computer rebooted after a short interval. Worse still, it continued to reboot almost as soon as the computer had finishied booting, even though Microsft Office 2003 Excel was not operating.

I then uninstalled BOINC and the rebooting problem ended.

Can you make sense of this behaviour?

Regards

Xiansheng

> On the computer that reboots, run MemTest:
> http://hcidesign.com/memtest/
>
> If it can't make two complete passes without errors, then that computer isn't
> fit to run CPDN or any distributed computing project. One of my PCs started
> crashing, while running CPDN after 5 months of smooth operation. I think and
> hope I have traced the problem to a power supply that isn't giving the correct
> voltage.
>
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Why doesn\'t BOINC work? (Message 8608)
Posted 4 Feb 2005 by Profile old_user44065
Post:
I am very diappointed that my initial enthusiasm for contributing to the climate predication project has been dampened by the failure of BOINC to work on either of two different computers at differnet locations. It seems to me that thre are significant bugs in BOINC, given the similarity between the failures.

In both cases BOINC states on starting that the Windows Interface Socket hasn't cleaned up. BOINC doesn't start automatically on either machine, and there have been problems getting the screen saver to work. It now works on one machine but won't work on the other. The first time it was installed on the second machine it refused to accept the URL that was copied into the regstraion page, but later, it accpted the page being typed in. Worst of all, it causes machine 1 to reboot every few minutes!

I tried to obtain some on-line help from the Climate Prediction website, but the advice given seemed to ignore the actual concerns I was expressing and was in the main unhelpful.

So, unless I can get some answers to these problems, particularly automatic startup rebooting and the Windows socket message, I will be reluctantly forced to abandon contributing to the project.

Regards

Xiansheng




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