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Macintosh :
Lost WU\'s
(Message 45395)
Posted 25 Dec 2012 by old_user420991 Post: Admin, could you please check again whether after you have completely exited from BOINC you still see high CPU activity, which probably means that the task(s) are still running. mo.v, sorry for delay! Just checked and no CPU high activity, maybe because of I have deleted the climate project:( As far as I remember, I made default BOINC installation, therefore it must work as application, not as a service. Few years ago I tried to do so for SETI@home only with my old Mac G4 insuccessfully. I recall that time I downloaded some template script to run SETI@home as a daemon. Few months ago all user data were transferred to current Mac mini with Apple Migration Assistant, i.e. from PPC machine to Intel based new one with no Mac OS upgrade. |
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Macintosh :
Lost WU\'s
(Message 45387)
Posted 21 Dec 2012 by old_user420991 Post: Thanks to everyone for the advices. I didn't feel alone in my doubts and appreciate your help! |
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Macintosh :
Lost WU\'s
(Message 45383)
Posted 21 Dec 2012 by old_user420991 Post: Do not upgrade or reinstall BOINC until all CPDN models have finished. Then reset or detach from CPDN and do the upgrade. It's not convenient to wait 600-800 hours to make system restart or shut down. Is there a way to get WUs smaller, at least 50 hours? |
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Macintosh :
Lost WU\'s
(Message 45381)
Posted 21 Dec 2012 by old_user420991 Post: ... and following is part of the log: Command: hadcm3n_graphics_6.07_i686-apple-darwin Path: /Library/Application Support/BOINC Data/projects/climateprediction.net/hadcm3n_graphics_6.07_i686-apple-darwin Parent: BOINCManager [8453] Version: ??? (???) PID: 3222 Thread: 0 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000 WUs now are lost without restarting:( Since now, the issue is not urgent any more, I will shut down the mini in couples of hours as part of preperation plan before the electricity repair. Nevertheless I would take part in further project computation. Fixing file permissions did not help. |
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Macintosh :
Lost WU\'s
(Message 45380)
Posted 21 Dec 2012 by old_user420991 Post: Now I noticed strange thing: in the BOINC Task Tab I've chosen Only Active Tasks and the only active was Climate Prediction Remaining estimated - 680 hours Elapsed - 92 hours Progress - 0.000% !!! 92 hours must be more than 10% Then I pressed the Suspend button but the CPU load utility still shows me 60% load. After that I pressed the Resume button and a few minutes late I was reading the following: Remaining estimated - 790 hours Elapsed - 4 minutes Progress - 0.000% !!! PS If I press the Show Graphics button, the Mac OS Console crash reporter reports: Fri Dec 21 18:02:43 2012 crashdump[3186]: Finished writing crash report to: /Library/Logs/CrashReporter/hadcm3n_graphics_6.07_i686-apple-darwin.crash.log without any graphics window. |
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Macintosh :
Lost WU\'s
(Message 45379)
Posted 21 Dec 2012 by old_user420991 Post: What a nuisance. I've looked at what I think is the same Mac Mini on Rosetta and SETI and noticed some interesting things. But I can't post what I wrote because the Akismet anti-spam program for this forum is blocking my post. Of course there is no spam in my post. Just divided my reply by two blocks to escape anti-spam restriction. Works! |
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Macintosh :
Lost WU\'s
(Message 45378)
Posted 21 Dec 2012 by old_user420991 Post: 4. In the Mac Mini BOINC Manager Projects tab, which projects are listed? rosetta@home climateprediction.net SETI@home malariacontrol.net 5. In the Mac Mini BOINC Manager Tasks tab, how many tasks are listed and which projects are they from? how many tasks? 8 (eight) which projects are they from? malariacontrol.net - 3 pcs climateprediction.net - 1 pcs rosetta@home - 1 pcs SETI@home - 3 pcs 6. When did you update to a new BOINC version on the Mac Mini that's processing CPDN? Can't say for sure, about a week ago. BOINC info window tells that Last Open Date is 12 of Dec'12. Looks true. |
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Macintosh :
Lost WU\'s
(Message 45377)
Posted 21 Dec 2012 by old_user420991 Post: Hello again You're right, current spec is absolutely different now: G4 few years ago and the Mac mini now. 2. If you right-click on the BOINC icon of the Mac Mini and then in the menu click on About BOINC Manager, which version of BOINC does it say?[/quote] 7.0.31 (x86). 3. How many Mac Minis with BOINC installed have you got? One. |
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Macintosh :
Lost WU\'s
(Message 45376)
Posted 21 Dec 2012 by old_user420991 Post: What a nuisance. I've looked at what I think is the same Mac Mini on Rosetta and SETI and noticed some interesting things. But I can't post what I wrote because the Akismet anti-spam program for this forum is blocking my post. Of course there is no spam in my post. Same problem with me. |
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Macintosh :
Lost WU\'s
(Message 45374)
Posted 21 Dec 2012 by old_user420991 Post: Your model may well be encountering a different problem, but the information needed is in the Show graphics window. I'll dig my Console utility for file save problems in few hours, now writing from a PC. Many Thanks to everyone for help! I really happy to receive your replies so quickly! |
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Macintosh :
Lost WU\'s
(Message 45373)
Posted 21 Dec 2012 by old_user420991 Post: If you select (click on), the model name, does the show graphics button become active, or does it remain greyed out? The show graphics button becomes active and is pushed down by my mouse pointer without any graphics for many minutes of waiting. I did the HDD bad blocks checking a couple of weeks ago and it was in good condition, but seems I did not run Fix Permissions after the newer BOINC version installation. Mac OS needs the procedure after almost every application intallation. By the way, I installed new BOINC without complete deinstallation of the previous version! |
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Macintosh :
Lost WU\'s
(Message 45368)
Posted 21 Dec 2012 by old_user420991 Post: Neither BOINC 6.12 version nor current 7.0.31 do not show graphics of any project. The MAc minis have no HDD LEDs. No graphics window appearing after clicking the Show Graphics tab of any project under Mac OS 10.4.11. Can I catch the checkpoint with other way? |
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Macintosh :
Lost WU\'s
(Message 45367)
Posted 20 Dec 2012 by old_user420991 Post: I have set somethig like Run BOINC Always in my Prefs, and it runs always as my CPU activity utility showsThat "always" is only while YOU aren't typing or running something else. i.e. BOINC only runs in the gaps between pressing a key. If I type many letters or move my mouse for much time the CPU Activity Monitor bar does not fall to zero level like it was few years ago: the CPU started to crunch in a minute of user inactivity. Now, if I even suspend, CPU left loaded for very long time-hour or more. My PC BOINC reacts in just few seconds when got suspended or resumed! There's a countdown timer which is visible in the Show graphics display. When it reaches zero, the disk activity light should flash for a while as data is saved. Neither BOINC 6.12 version nor current 7.0.31 do not show graphics of any project. The MAc minis have no HDD LEDs. |
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Macintosh :
Lost WU\'s
(Message 45365)
Posted 20 Dec 2012 by old_user420991 Post: So what would be the safe way to shut down my Mac mini tomorrow? How can I check if the Climate Prediction has saved at least one checkpoint so I could suspend it and quit the BOINC client before shutting down? |
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Macintosh :
Lost WU\'s
(Message 45364)
Posted 20 Dec 2012 by old_user420991 Post: If the scenario I'm imagining is true, I think you'd have to set all your projects to No New Tasks in the Projects tab and see whether this model can then progress as it should. I'll try this. I don't know very much about Mac Minis but I also wonder whether their cooling system is powerful enough to crunch BOINC on two or even one core if the CPU is being used at 100%. I wonder whether the machine is throttling ie limiting CPU usage to keep the CPU cool. If this is the case would it be necessary to limit CPU usage in account preferences? The mini is located on the west-directed window-sill and huge window frame cracks with -15 Celsius outside the window make the CPU in just perfect condition :-) Also, the CPU Activity Monitor shows no throttling signs if I even crunch simultaneously 2 projects with 100$ CPU load. |
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Macintosh :
Lost WU\'s
(Message 45363)
Posted 20 Dec 2012 by old_user420991 Post: ...Are you crunching tasks from another BOINC project simultaneously on the other core? I think this would be too much for the machine and if this is what's happening it may explain why the model's never reaching the end of its first model year. I ran only the Climate Prediction prj and the CPU was loaded for about 55% (55% for each core) |
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Macintosh :
Lost WU\'s
(Message 45362)
Posted 20 Dec 2012 by old_user420991 Post: ...but are you just closing the BOINC Manager window? Or are you exiting from the whole BOINC process? I was afraid to lose several hours work, so I did following: 1 Activity > Suspend (don't remember if I've seen that time the CPU load reached zero level. Mostly - yes) 2 File > Exit 3 Apple Menu > Restart The tasks from a lot of projects don't seem to mind the computer being shut down while BOINC is still processing but climate models don't like this at all. I tried Activity-Suspend in the BOINC menu, but both CPU cores of my mini were still loaded for few hours though. |
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Macintosh :
Lost WU\'s
(Message 45361)
Posted 20 Dec 2012 by old_user420991 Post: However, BOINC only runs it's work when you aren't using the computer, and you if use it heavily then the projects won't get much time for their work. And, as you appear to be running several projects, the work from each will have to share what time is being allowed. I have set somethig like Run BOINC Always in my Prefs, and it runs always as my CPU activity utility shows. I tried to run the only Climate Prediction project under the BOINC to leave the CPU absolutely free for it as well. As result, two weekends work were wasted after monday morning system restart. Seems like I should check the same with BOINC 7.0.31, maybe it has no such a feature. |
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Macintosh :
Lost WU\'s
(Message 45356)
Posted 20 Dec 2012 by old_user420991 Post: My Climate Prediction 200 hours of work are lost after stopping the BOINC and restarting the Mac Mini. The mini was working 24/7 and I needed to restart it for some reasons. Later I tried to run the Climate Prediction for just couple of days, then Suspend Activity of the project, do a hour pause and restart the mini and worked hour were lost again. Remaining (estimated) hours returns to start value (888 hours) every time I do restart my system and start the project again. The project can't be saved to the HDD. The mini must be shut down soon because of planned electricity repair works and I afraid my WUs will be lost again. Please help urgently! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My specs are: BOINC version when 200 hours of work are lost - BOINC 6.12.xxxxx (don't remember) BOINC version currently - BOINC 7.0.31 vx Widgets version 2.8.10 Mac OS X 10.4.11 Mac Mini Intel CoreDuo 1.66 1536 MB of RAM Remaining (estimated) hours currently - 718 hours |
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