Posts by old_user1749

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Is s/TS a running average... (Message 4192) Posted 16 Sep 2004 by old_user1749 Post: Update: those seti wu were just short wu's, but still, if 2 seti wu are running they get a time close to 3:30, one seti and one cpu get a time close or over 3:40 With the changed scheduler period, now the projects get 4 hours of work before switching and for over 24 hour the scheduler work on one project at a time (4 hours seti then 4 hours CPDN)and the s/ts have remain (very) different: Latest Trickles For This Host Result ID \| Phase \| Timestep \|CPU Time (sec)\| Average (sec/TS) 139759 \| 2 \| 64812 \| 810458 \| 2.5010 201550 \| 1 \| 54010 \| 175261 \| 3.2450
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Is s/TS a running average... (Message 4143) Posted 15 Sep 2004 by old_user1749 Post: > > I also have a question on the s/ts. > > I have a p4 3.00GHz with HT running 2 models/Wu's and there is a big > > difference in s/ts: > > First wu: between 1.9 s/ts and 2.2s/ts > > Second wu: between 3.0 s/ts and 3.3 s/ts > > > > I don't know if this matters but then first wu is running all the time, > the > > second gets pre-empted (but remains in memory), sharing CPU time with > seti > > > > Is this normal? > > It's probably normal if you think about hyperthreading --- two CPDN's running > at once are probably really "competing" for memory bandwidth and FPU, but > perhaps when it's one cpdn running with one seti there's not as much > "competition" for the same resources (probably more so when it's memory bw as > I imagine SETI is FPU-intensive! :-) > > So when it's 1 CPDN WU running along with 1 SETI WU they "get along" better. > I guess to prove this you'd have to see if CPDN WU#1 gets better sec/timstep > avg in the intervals when it's running alongside SETI; but when it's two CPDN > WU's at once they both are probably 3s/ts. > > But this is all nice when you think that we different BOINC projects live in > peace and harmony, and these nasty CPDN climate models just fight amongst > themselves! ;-) > Thaks for the reply I've trying to force the scheduler in doing what I want, but playing with the resource share doesn't help. Any help would be welcome. What I've been able to do is changing the scheduler period and now there is one CPDN and one Seti running, before that there were 2 seti wu's running: 2 seti wu's: between 3:00 and 3:10/WU (or maybe just short wu) 1 seti to 1 CPDN => seti between 3:30 and 3:40/WU For now I conclude that CPDN is dominant over seti
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Is s/TS a running average... (Message 3969) Posted 12 Sep 2004 by old_user1749 Post: I also have a question on the s/ts. I have a p4 3.00GHz with HT running 2 models/Wu's and there is a big difference in s/ts: First wu: between 1.9 s/ts and 2.2s/ts Second wu: between 3.0 s/ts and 3.3 s/ts I don't know if this matters but then first wu is running all the time, the second gets pre-empted (but remains in memory), sharing CPU time with seti Is this normal?
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Question on BOINC CPDN interactions (Message 3573) Posted 9 Sep 2004 by old_user1749 Post: > Interesting, I had my BOINC suspended last night for around a 1/2 hr while I > checked out the new patch to WWIIOL and had no problems. Could it be possible > that you thought you checked suspend but missed...... > When Asking for help, please post the following; It is always possible but I believe suspended came up in the messages. But regardless of that, when and why or what triggers a benchmark?
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Question on BOINC CPDN interactions (Message 3520) Posted 8 Sep 2004 by old_user1749 Post: I had a problem some time ago with a model/wu after running 2 to 4 days. So I wonder if it is possible that Boinc doesn\'t shut down CPDN if you close it while it is in suspend (boinc gui) or if you shut boinc down if it is in suspend and starts running a benchmark, what I also find weird. I\'m running Win xp pro SP1 on a PIV 3.0GHz with HT with 512 Meg of ram and boinc 4.05 So what happened was, I put boinc in suspend for playing Need4Speed, but in the middle of the game the pc started to slow down. With Alt + tab, I looked at what was going on in other programs opened (IE and boinc), boinc was running a benchmark and I shut it down using File and Exit. Later, when done playing, I started boinc up again and I got: Couldn\'t start the app for this result: error -144 After some restarting and re-attaching I found the \"old\" CPDN still running (I assume this because as the app couldn\'t start it wouldn\'t be running), after killing it, some more error -144 and restarting boinc all was well again. This all left me with more computers then I have so I merged them. Now I don\'t seem to be able to find this wu on my account (and maybe with reason) the credit granted from it I\'m not going to try to recreate the situation, but it would be nice if someone could tell me if it was just bad luck or an imperfection in boinc or cpdn
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Got a question on MIN memory (Message 3514) Posted 8 Sep 2004 by old_user1749 Post: > Sorry I always leave something out , I mean RAM lolol I think Xp would be complaining alot if you only had 256 meg of (free) hard disk space ;)
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Got a question on MIN memory (Message 3512) Posted 8 Sep 2004 by old_user1749 Post: > If say I have 256 megs of memory and the min to run CPDN is 128 megs, and I > have XP taking up X amount and a couple of other running processes that take > up X amount and I have 90 megs left will CPDN run? > > When Asking for help, please post the following; > Type of PC > How much memory > Type of Operating System > Type of connection to Internet > Projects You are Running > Version of BOINC > > M7 <b>CPDN@h, Berkeley's Staff, Friends Club Â©</b> > No expert so I could be wrong First I'll assume you mean 256 Megs of RAM (not hard disk, just in case it's not the same in English) Well then I think Xp will find enough to put in the swap file so that CPDN can have the 128 Megs it wants, but the best way is maybe to try it but in any case there will be a lot of swapping going on if all the processes need their cpu time.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : credit send to zero (Message 3510) Posted 8 Sep 2004 by old_user1749 Post: > > I lost 15-20,000 rocks > > ========== > > > > We're not concerned about Rocks here Astra, just Credits...I'm sure the > Gravel > > Co. can replace your Rocks quite easily... ;) > > > > > I thought you knew the unit of credit in BOINC is called a cobblestone. So we > are piling up rocks here after a fashion. I didn't know, I'm learning every day. A translator told me that we are actually collecting stones like those found in some streets of rather old cities/villages (in Europe) The ones that were thrown at law enforcers in times of civil unrest... But then again the translator may be mistaken
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Cache settings (Message 3507) Posted 8 Sep 2004 by old_user1749 Post: > > Maybe that 's the reason why my Preditor wu's all have a higher claimed > then > > granted credit, some even 2x. > > So all I have to do is make sure I'm listing to mp3's when Boinc runs a > > benchmark ;) > > If you are running other projects, you definitely want to adjust your cache. > With your settings, you are guaranteed to get more work than you can complete > on time... :( > > And listening to mp3s while benchmarking will have little to no impact on the > results. The benchmark results like the actual processing time are not based > on wall clock time, but CPU time. So having another application running will > only slow the process down, not affect the results much. > Yes, I also run seti and predictor, but I have no work from predictor (as many may know) and 40 wu's from seti. CPDN and seti get the same amount of cpu time (50-50 for now) so all the seti wu's should be finished in 5 days (not even close to 100 ;) ) I think the CPDN server has more faith in my pc's crunching abilities then the seti server has ;)
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Cache settings (Message 3465) Posted 8 Sep 2004 by old_user1749 Post: > that's based on the boinc benchmark code, so if you got a higher than usual > benchmark score from boinc it will "overestimate" the amount of work you can > get ( I hope it was underestimating so the wu's get done in 20 days :) ) Thanks for the reply Maybe that 's the reason why my Preditor wu's all have a higher claimed then granted credit, some even 2x. So all I have to do is make sure I'm listing to mp3's when Boinc runs a benchmark ;)
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Cache settings (Message 3460) Posted 8 Sep 2004 by old_user1749 Post: I set boinc to have a cache between 10 and 20 days, but now I see there are 4 CPDN Wu on my pc (PIV 3.0GHz). One Wu should take from 20 to 25 days so I now have CPDN work for about 100 days. I has only been about 2 months since my last math exam, and I believe 100 isn't between 10 and 20. So, if I may ask, what is wrong here? (or what did I do wrong? skip math class maybe? :) )
12) Questions and Answers : Windows : CP won\'t start anymore (Message 2994) Posted 4 Sep 2004 by old_user1749 Post: Thanks Thyme Lawn, I think it's something close to number 3 because: Boinc was first running fine when I put it in suspend some time later I choose file, exit (Called closing Boinc, not killing I believe) When I restarted Boinc (No pc restart) the CPDN processes was still running, given the error, also giving an error when Detaching from CPDN But why did I still get the error after killing CPDN (taskmanager), deleting the directory and re-attaching?
13) Questions and Answers : Windows : CP won\'t start anymore (Message 2933) Posted 3 Sep 2004 by old_user1749 Post: @Chilcotin: Not using NT4 but Windows XP SP1 on a P4 3.0 GHz going and going... 2004-09-04 00:54:29 - Project prefs: no separate prefs for work; using your defaults Insufficient work; requesting more Insufficient work; requesting more 2004-09-04 00:54:32 - Requesting 8302 seconds of work 2004-09-04 00:54:32 - Sending request to scheduler: http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc_cgi/cgi 2004-09-04 00:54:35 - Scheduler RPC to http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc_cgi/cgi succeeded Started download of hadsm3_4.03_windows_intelx86.exe Started download of hadsm3data_4.03_windows_intelx86.zip Finished download of hadsm3_4.03_windows_intelx86.exe Throughput 179143 bytes/sec Started download of hadsm3um_4.03_windows_intelx86.zip Finished download of hadsm3data_4.03_windows_intelx86.zip Throughput 380413 bytes/sec Started download of hadsm3se_4.03_windows_intelx86.zip Finished download of hadsm3um_4.03_windows_intelx86.zip Throughput 335756 bytes/sec Started download of 1pz6_100101144.zip Finished download of 1pz6_100101144.zip Throughput 6527 bytes/sec Finished download of hadsm3se_4.03_windows_intelx86.zip Throughput 186626 bytes/sec Unrecoverable error for result 1pz6_100101144_0 (Couldn't start the app for this result: error -144) Deferring communication with project for 1 minutes and 0 seconds Insufficient work; requesting more Requesting 25944 seconds of work Sending request to scheduler: http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc_cgi/cgi Scheduler RPC to http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc_cgi/cgi succeeded Started download of 1pz3_100101141.zip Finished download of 1pz3_100101141.zip Throughput 6595 bytes/sec Unrecoverable error for result 1pz3_100101141_0 (Couldn't start the app for this result: error -144) Deferring communication with project for 1 minutes and 0 seconds
14) Questions and Answers : Windows : CP won\'t start anymore (Message 2931) Posted 3 Sep 2004 by old_user1749 Post: also after re-attach it keep going and going ... : climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:45:29 - Finished download of hadsm3data_4.03_windows_intelx86.zip climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:45:29 - Throughput 341964 bytes/sec climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:45:29 - Started download of hadsm3se_4.03_windows_intelx86.zip climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:45:30 - Finished download of hadsm3um_4.03_windows_intelx86.zip climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:45:30 - Throughput 293620 bytes/sec climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:45:30 - Started download of 1pxx_100101098.zip climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:45:33 - Finished download of 1pxx_100101098.zip climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:45:33 - Throughput 6531 bytes/sec climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:45:36 - Finished download of hadsm3se_4.03_windows_intelx86.zip climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:45:36 - Throughput 189263 bytes/sec climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:45:36 - Unrecoverable error for result 1pxx_100101098_0 (Couldn't start the app for this result: error -144) climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:45:36 - Deferring communication with project for 1 minutes and 0 seconds --- - 2004-09-04 00:46:37 - Insufficient work; requesting more climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:46:37 - Requesting 25944 seconds of work climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:46:37 - Sending request to scheduler: http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc_cgi/cgi climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:46:40 - Scheduler RPC to http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc_cgi/cgi succeeded climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:46:40 - Started download of 1py0_100101101.zip climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:46:43 - Finished download of 1py0_100101101.zip climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:46:43 - Throughput 6569 bytes/sec climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:46:43 - Unrecoverable error for result 1py0_100101101_0 (Couldn't start the app for this result: error -144) climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:46:43 - Deferring communication with project for 1 minutes and 0 seconds --- - 2004-09-04 00:47:44 - Insufficient work; requesting more climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:47:44 - Requesting 25945 seconds of work climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:47:44 - Sending request to scheduler: http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc_cgi/cgi climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:47:47 - Scheduler RPC to http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc_cgi/cgi succeeded climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:47:48 - Started download of 1pxi_100101083.zip climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:47:51 - Finished download of 1pxi_100101083.zip climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:47:51 - Throughput 6599 bytes/sec climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:47:51 - Unrecoverable error for result 1pxi_100101083_0 (Couldn't start the app for this result: error -144) climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:47:51 - Deferring communication with project for 1 minutes and 0 seconds
15) Questions and Answers : Windows : CP won\'t start anymore (Message 2930) Posted 3 Sep 2004 by old_user1749 Post: boinc messages: --- - 2004-09-04 00:35:01 - Starting BOINC client version 4.05 for windows_intelx86 climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:01 - Project prefs: using your defaults Predictor@home - 2004-09-04 00:35:01 - Project prefs: using your defaults SETI@home - 2004-09-04 00:35:01 - Project prefs: using your defaults climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:01 - Host ID is 3938 Predictor@home - 2004-09-04 00:35:01 - Host ID is 22694 SETI@home - 2004-09-04 00:35:01 - Host ID is 98727 --- - 2004-09-04 00:35:01 - General prefs: from climateprediction.net (last modified 2004-09-01 00:46:21) --- - 2004-09-04 00:35:01 - General prefs: using your defaults --- - 2004-09-04 00:35:02 - Insufficient work; requesting more climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:02 - Requesting 26389 seconds of work climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:02 - Sending request to scheduler: http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc_cgi/cgi climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:05 - Scheduler RPC to http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc_cgi/cgi succeeded climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:05 - Project prefs: using your defaults Predictor@home - 2004-09-04 00:35:05 - Deferring communication with project for 11 hours, 37 minutes, and 3 seconds climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:05 - Started download of hadsm3_4.03_windows_intelx86.exe climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:05 - Started download of hadsm3data_4.03_windows_intelx86.zip --- - 2004-09-04 00:35:11 - Insufficient work; requesting more SETI@home - 2004-09-04 00:35:11 - Requesting 51879 seconds of work SETI@home - 2004-09-04 00:35:11 - Sending request to scheduler: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:13 - Finished download of hadsm3_4.03_windows_intelx86.exe climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:13 - Throughput 228603 bytes/sec climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:13 - Started download of hadsm3um_4.03_windows_intelx86.zip SETI@home - 2004-09-04 00:35:14 - Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi failed SETI@home - 2004-09-04 00:35:14 - No schedulers responded SETI@home - 2004-09-04 00:35:14 - Deferring communication with project for 1 minutes and 0 seconds climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:21 - Finished download of hadsm3data_4.03_windows_intelx86.zip climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:21 - Throughput 366826 bytes/sec climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:21 - Started download of hadsm3se_4.03_windows_intelx86.zip climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:24 - Finished download of hadsm3um_4.03_windows_intelx86.zip climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:24 - Throughput 303911 bytes/sec climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:24 - Started download of 1pwn_100101052.zip climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:27 - Finished download of 1pwn_100101052.zip climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:27 - Throughput 6572 bytes/sec climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:28 - Finished download of hadsm3se_4.03_windows_intelx86.zip climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:28 - Throughput 191291 bytes/sec climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:28 - Unrecoverable error for result 1pwn_100101052_0 (Couldn\'t start the app for this result: error -144) climateprediction.net - 2004-09-04 00:35:28 - Deferring communication with project for 1 minutes and 0 seconds My last result got the same error after running almost a week