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Message boards :
Number crunching :
How hot may an Intel Core duo E6600 become?
(Message 29518)
Posted 12 Jul 2007 by  old_user15294
Post: i have an E4300 cpu oc\'d to 2.4, on G965 DS3, so it\'s basically an E6600 with half of cache, and at room temperature 30C, core temp shows 70-72 with stock cooler and i know that it can\'t get any hotter than this. Are you having any stability problems? I haven\'t dared go over 2.2, with a 1.8 Core Duo. Everything else is the same but the temp, it\'s at 45C. |
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Message boards :
Cafe CPDN :
Contadiction
(Message 28846)
Posted 21 May 2007 by old_user15294
Post: Have you also thought about how much impact politics has on this issue. Good one! This goes to show that panic doesn\'t solve anything. This does sound like a panicky decision, where ones actions contradict the purpose. Of course pumping up water needs a lot of energy, just try lifting 10 litres of water and then think about how many litres of water goes to watering the garden. But then comes the contradiction, as you mention, people are not willing to pay the price and what happens? You get a concrete jungle. Many scientists say that if we were to plant more parks in the cities we could slow the global warming considerably. Before we react we should think things through and find the best solution, unfortunately we do not a time to think things thoroughly through, but one doesn’t have to be a rocket scientist to see means like these will lead to the opposite effect. Money shouldn’t be the issue any more, countries like the one I live in and other rich nations should show that they take global heating serious and spend what is needed on finding solutions to slow it down. What I think many nations do not want to hear is that if global heating keeps on increasing like it is now for 100 years, it will ruin the global economy. What scares me is that the worst polluter USA is not willing to put pressure to find eco friendly systems. It as if the government doesn’t want to see what’s going on. They would rather sit and wait to see if it gets any worse. Even economist are shouting and warning about what a catastrophe global heating will have on every single countries economy, but for some reason the USA government doesn’t want to react. I’m almost certain that if USA were to say enough is enough, we have to find alternative means, the other countries would follow suit. Even though Norway has not reduced it CO2 outlet since 2003, it only counts for a maximum of 2% of the global outlet. This is no excuse to not try and reduce the outlet, but goes to show that no matter how much countries like Norway reduce the outlet it count for so little, as long as counties like USA, China and India keep on increasing their outlet. What I think, my personal opinion that is, is that then countries like Norway say, why should we reduce our outlet that will have no effect on global heating and loose out on the income if the big polluters don’t, why should we pay the bill? As Rory mentioned there are many more gasses that can count in as greenhouse gasses like methane, sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides and carbon oxides, but today it is carbon dioxide that is the biggest threat. Especially since scientist now say that the lungs of the world, Antarctic sea, is filled up with CO2 and cannot absorb any more. |
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Message boards :
Cafe CPDN :
Contadiction
(Message 28814)
Posted 20 May 2007 by old_user15294
Post: Don\'t panic! Panic has never helped anyone! Though it is important to react and start making changes, yesterday. But it really does not help all that much if the mutant apes controlling USA and China see no evil or hear no evil. It is by no doubt to late, and changes are happening and probably will continue to get worse as long as I and probably my children live. We must show the mutant apes’ controlling these two countries is that mutant apes elsewhere on this planet want to survive on it, only by cleaning our own doorstep can we prove that we are serious. I am afraid that if we are not conscious of our own emissions, how can we then point our fingers at others? As I said it’s a matter of principle, even if we, participants of CPDN, stop using electricity and start living in caves only lighting a fire to make food, it wouldn’t have any effect on global heating. But by reducing our emissions we can show that we do care and ask of others to do the same. It’s a matter of not contradicting ones statements in ones actions, then no one will listen. Very few are listening to the Norwegian government requests to reduce emissions because of exactly this. |
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Message boards :
Cafe CPDN :
Contadiction
(Message 28796)
Posted 19 May 2007 by old_user15294
Post: Don\'t panic! It\'s not about me wanting anyone to stop crunching. I\'m just asking if it\'s a contradictiction to leave your the computers crunching when your not actively using the computer. The answer is pretty simple, it\'s 42! Joke aside, the question is really about prinsiple. The computers that are used to crunch the data would not make any difference to global heating if they were all turned off. But if you are doing this to maybe find a solution to global heating, then you should also think about your own emissions on all levels. I\'m not trying to moralize you, Al Gore as already tried this, I\'m just asking a question and am glad to see that there are quite a few that have done the same, asked the question. :) It brings tears to my eyes when I see my glaciers melt away! |
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Message boards :
Cafe CPDN :
Contadiction
(Message 28774)
Posted 18 May 2007 by old_user15294
Post: Hi You’re absolutely right about what the Norwegian government says. The Norwegian government wants to be the good guy, the example to follow, but one shouldn\'t be lured by this. Norway pollutes a lot! It has not reduced its CO2 outlet since 2003. The government talks warmly about CO2 quota, why, because Norway is rich enough to buy “conscienceâ€Â. It is beyond doubt that the Norwegian government has a double morale in concern to pollution, but will never admit it. As far as I know, and this is what my energy supplier says, my base is supplied from river systems. I have no reason to not believe this. As for nuclear fuel, it\'s a good idea until it’s used up, what happens then to the nuclear waste? Another thing that is worrying about nuclear power plants is the risk, even though it is very small there is always a risk. Take Sweden, not such a long time ago they had to shout down a nuclear power plant in Oskarshamn because of a construction fault. The consequences can be so dire and one must ask if it’s worth the risk? Tsjernobyl and Harrisburg! |
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Message boards :
Cafe CPDN :
Contadiction
(Message 28761)
Posted 17 May 2007 by old_user15294
Post: So if everyone stopped crunching climate model data where would that leave things? I\'m not asking everyone to stop crunching climate data, just to ask themselves if it is really necessary to leave the computers on beyond the time that one actively uses the computer. The question is mostly directed to those that use \"dirty\" energy. I honestly do not think that there is doubt that global heating is a reality and therefore the running of this data is not essential any more. The data results are still very useful, but not essential. The question is more that is it not a contradiction to run computers on “dirty†energy to try and save the earth from global heating? |
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Message boards :
Cafe CPDN :
Contadiction
(Message 28755)
Posted 17 May 2007 by old_user15294
Post: Isn\'t it strange that those that have answered use renewable energy sources, expecially since I was not addressing this part of the CPDN participants? Most of the people living on this earth do not use renewable energy, but fossil fuel and therefore I think my question should be considered. I do not leave my computer on after I’m finished with it, even though my energy is renewable. This to get into the habit of turning it of in the possibility, as Rory points out, that Norway starts importing energy, and to save money. Rory is wrong on one point and that is that Norway does have more than enough renewable energy to go around for many years, but the state chooses to sell it to other countries for economical reasons. One of the main reasons for this is because a lot of the highly electricity consuming factories get subsidised electricity, meaning they would earn more selling the electricity and buying cheep dirty electricity. Many Norwegians know this but they shake their heads and say that not good, but do nothing. This is Norwegians in a nutshell. I’m not saying I’m a saint when it comes to CO2, but I try and think things through and even though I make noticeable changes I can try and participate in keeping mine and my families CO2 outlet to a minimum. It’s17. May and Norway’s national day, so I must be off and watch my children parade in a lovely worm sunny day. |
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Message boards :
Cafe CPDN :
Contadiction
(Message 28738)
Posted 16 May 2007 by old_user15294
Post: I would like to first ask how many of you leave your computers running to crunch as much CPDN as possible? Secondly, do you know where the electricity that your computer(s) uses to crunch comes from (or that delivers electricity to your electricity outlet comes from)? Thirdly, have you ever considered that leaving your computer on to crunch CPDN data is a contradiction? The reason I’m thinking this is because in many countries fossil fuel is used to generate energy and this is one of the main reasons we have global warming today. So ask your selves next time you leave your computer on to do some crunching: Why do I participate? If the reason is to get at better understanding of global warming and maybe find a solution, then turn your computer of when you are finished using it. It will be a contradiction to leave it on just to crunch data. |
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Questions and Answers :
Windows :
Back to 1920
(Message 25904)
Posted 9 Jan 2007 by old_user15294
Post: So when is the snooze option an option? Is snooze a suspend for 1 hour option or does it work differently? |
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Questions and Answers :
Windows :
Back to 1920
(Message 25888)
Posted 8 Jan 2007 by old_user15294
Post: ... It\'s also necessary to exit from boinc before scans, and suspending or (preferably) exiting before defragging is also mandatory. ... This was very good to know! |
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Questions and Answers :
Windows :
Back to 1920
(Message 25884)
Posted 8 Jan 2007 by old_user15294
Post: Did seem to help delaying the program shutdown time out. Guess I will just have to take backups every time I\'m going to shutdown my PC and exit BOINC manually. Thank you anyway! |
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Questions and Answers :
Windows :
Back to 1920
(Message 25868)
Posted 7 Jan 2007 by old_user15294
Post: That would be great, as I think that it is being brutal to a few other programs too. |
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Questions and Answers :
Windows :
Back to 1920
(Message 25866)
Posted 7 Jan 2007 by old_user15294
Post: Thanks, Yes, it might happen on shut downs. Several times I have received a message box asking if I want to kill BOINC. I haven\'t found out why, but obviously my XP SP2 has problems killing the service properly. I\'ll give your suggestion a try and see if it helps. |
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Questions and Answers :
Windows :
Back to 1920
(Message 25862)
Posted 7 Jan 2007 by old_user15294
Post: My PC was crunching happily away at a project and had worked on the project for 30 or so hours, my PC is not of the fastest, but it gets some work done. Then today I open the BOINC manager to see how my crunching is getting on and how the whether was back then in 1931 or 1932, to my great despair I see that a new project is downloaded and I\'m back to 1920. This is not the first time this has happened and it is taking it\'s toll on my patience as I would like my machine to do some futuristic calculations. The weather that has been we know about, it\'s the future weather that is of interest. I know that historic data is the bases for most correct calculations of the future climate. Does anyone have a clue of why this is happening? I have not done anything to my PC that should make this happen. |
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