Posts by old_user127370

1) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Feeling betrayed.... (Message 22834) Posted 20 May 2006 by old_user127370 Post: I think its not fair to blame the CPDN staff. There probably are not many, maybe there is no scientific topic argued as controversially as the global climate change. Research on climate change is regularly being attacked by highly funded campaigns like recently published at streams.cei.org (quote: \"CO2 - they call it pollution, we call it life\"), or by wanna-be \"thrillers\" like Crichton\'s \"State of fear\". While protein folding finally may be seen as at least potentially supporting industrial interests, too (or does any folding cruncher believe to be provided pharmaceutic remedies possibly somewhen developed as an outcome of the project for free?), climate research is tackled e.g. by intense resistance from some fossil resource multinationals. Under such circumstances I am not surprised that the CPDN project has to face a difficult financial situation. But is it their fault that major global players have an evident interest in keeping down the truth about global climate change? Additionally, I think Apple users are a very specific group, which (as I believe) mainly consists of two major parts: The one are professionals working in the advertisment and media industry, with their machines located in agencies and companies; they won\'t care a lot for distributed computing, unless they can instrumentalize it for customer relationships. A large share of the second, non-professional group seem to me to be sumthing like \"lifestyle junkies\", who probably are not at all interested in projects like CPDN. I assume those donating their CPU time here to probably be more or less rare exceptions among the already small absolute number of Mac users. So, if the conditions for the project staff are as described here, I hope it will benefit CPDN, for the project\'s importance will not be less if I cannot contribute any longer. Of course I regret not to be able to contribute anymore. Should that be reason to turn against those people, who will continue doing the most important distributed computing project I know? Is the project suddenly becoming less important? I don\'t think so. \"Just one more thing\": After here there are working two G4s (a G400 and a Dual 1,25 GHz), my next machine will probably be some x86, to dig myself deeper into Linux. So, maybe I will be back then ... Until then: Good luck to CPDN!
2) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : * Sticky - PowerPC Mac users (Message 21865) Posted 3 Apr 2006 by old_user127370 Post: It\'s possible that something has crashed at Oxford. If so, it should be fixed by midday Monday, Oxford time. Unless it requires replacement parts like last time. :( Thx once more: Alive and kicking again!
3) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : * Sticky - PowerPC Mac users (Message 21836) Posted 2 Apr 2006 by old_user127370 Post: ajo The servers at Oxford were down for maintenance on the 1st April. This may have caused the strange message, which was also reported by another person. The data should be uploading now. Thx for the reply, Les. However, I still get the same message whenever I try to update. The models so far are running fine, just the credits constantly drop. Someone apparently must have mis-configured the server, trickles from a non-Intel Mac (\'powerpc-apple-darwin\') no longer are accepted.
4) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : * Sticky - PowerPC Mac users (Message 21823) Posted 2 Apr 2006 by old_user127370 Post: Am I getting this right by understanding that I may now quit the two models running here, one completed to 75% and the other to 25%? I am constantly getting the reply \"Message from server: platform \'powerpc-apple-darwin\' not found\" Is this an April 1 joke? I could understand not to receive new workunits, if the decision was made to no longer support an obiously complicated platform, which additionally has been discontinued. But why slamming the door into my face this way?
5) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Blue planet (Message 18257) Posted 16 Dec 2005 by old_user127370 Post: Hi there, though I have posted some quite critical messages, I didn\'t mean my last one to be a really critical one. On my machine, everything is running smoothly right now. I sometimes watch the turning globes, but I can also stop the necessary graphic clients and (after that) even may reboot the machine without problems: The models start running by themselves again. It seems to me, there are some (to me: minor) limitations to run CPDN on Mac, but after I was able to identify them, I see a perspective. I will run the two models present on my two CPUs until they finish. Because I want to support this.
6) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Blue planet (Message 18183) Posted 14 Dec 2005 by old_user127370 Post: Hi there, I had this problem in one model before, too, on a Dual 1,25 GHz Mac under 10.4.3. It occurred after I once had stopped the BOINC client without before quitting the graphic clients for the two models I ran. If you once started the common visualization tool (be it in the client by clicking \"work -> graphics\" or by enabling the screen saver), you should have several icons in the dock: One for the BOINC client (showing the yellow B on blue background) and one for each graphic client used for visualization before (these show a globe with, like a puzzle, a little white piece missing in the lower right corner). If you want to stop the BOINC client, e.g. for rebooting the machine, first right-click the visualization icons and stop them. On my machine, this also pauses calculation of the models for a moment, which then starts again on its own. Stopping the whole client without first stopping the visualization crashed one of my planets, it froze to -42Â°C without rain or clouds or pressure, blue world like your\'s. By the way: Running the visualizations eats up a remarkable share of CPU time, though I like playing around with these globes, too. HTH, ajo
7) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Version 4.22 release (Message 17826) Posted 6 Dec 2005 by old_user127370 Post: Hi, I just stopped and restarted BOINC, now I have two crash reports to send if someone wants them :-/ BOINC always quits with a crash on my machine, which does not seem to be related to CPDN, or is it? Both of the 4.21 runs were restarted so far without problems at about the same point of time at which I stopped. So, I stopped the download of a new 4.22 model and guess it will be okay to let the two present ones (ver. 4.21) continue? Otherwise, let me know. By the way, a bug still present is the one concerning the \"remaining time\" (I always have about 3,270 hours displayed as remaing time), which however I don\'t take for being too serious.
8) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Version 4.22 release (Message 17824) Posted 6 Dec 2005 by old_user127370 Post: Hi, I have two ver. 4.21 models running on a Dual 1,25 G4 Mac since 29 hours, one of them just passed the first trickle at TS 10802, while for the second the answer was \"Project is down\" and \"No scheduler responded\". As I started just last Friday, I expect from my first experiences that the presently running models will crash when I try to stop. I still have a complete OS X crash report from the last try to quit BOINC, is there an interest to have this? I will try to stop BOINC and report here afterwards.
9) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Version 4.22 release (Message 17817) Posted 6 Dec 2005 by old_user127370 Post: Should presently running models ver. 4.21 under BOINC 5.2.13 be continued? Or is it better to abort? Here it seems so far like any quitting of the BOINC client leads to a program crash. I am not sure if I am able to let this machine and the program run for the coming months without at least sometimes stopping BOINC or even the machine, e.g. due to hardware modification.
10) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : What\'s up? (Message 17743) Posted 5 Dec 2005 by old_user127370 Post: Hi there again, just the recent outcomes, after crunching went on through the night: Somewhen around 7:30am this morning the BOINC client failed to contact the scheduler, as I had closed the line. Obviously this caused both runs to terminate with \"error 10\", as the notice on abnormal termination directly follows. Unfortunately it was not possible to copy&paste the messages from the BOINC windows. However, I have saved the detailed Mac OS 10.4.3 crash report as *.txt, which may possibly be helpful to debug. Is anybody from the project interested to have that?
11) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : What\'s up? (Message 17723) Posted 5 Dec 2005 by old_user127370 Post: Hi there, first something about this forum: I find it quite strange to read the original question on top, then have to scroll down for the first answers and follow them back up again. Took some time till I understood. Who invented this confusing way of (de-)organizing a thread? Now, yesterday I downloaded the BOINC 5.2.13 client and libraries for Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and installed everything. The system is up and running, though my impression is that the software is far from being optimized for Mac. I am running it on a Dual 1,25 GHz G4 with 1,25 GB RAM, and the two simulations (one per clock, running them at 100% for about 30 hours now) rarely get faster than about 9.x sec/Timestep. The \"remaining time\" shown in the \"work\" window never reduces? For testing I stopped my Apache and MySQL daemon, which usually are running on this machine, no difference. I saw a single 2 or 2.3 GHz G5 on top of all processors, doing something like 0.2 sec/TS. I worked with a Dual 1,8 GHz with 4 GB RAM, a G5 is not 20 x faster. What is this? There are several more problems: Whenever I close the BOINC manager, an information comes up that the program has unexpectedly crashed, no matter if I stop the running processes before in BOINC or not. What about these \"trickles\"? I have a DSL line, but no matter if it is open or not, wether I actively connect or wait: Nothing is transmitted. One project died in May 1811, the planet froze to -42Â°C, no clouds, no rain, no pressure, error could not be retrieved. The other run has by now crept to sumthing like 10477 timesteps and is going, but doesn\'t transmit nothing. Whenever I stopped and restarted the program, it downloaded two new runs, though one of the two first died, while the other is ongoing, now at 0.81% in July 1811. I got about 400 MB and growing on my HD. I now clicked the \"no more jobs\" in the Project window, will that stop the request for new runs? Do these runs really have to be that big? Doesn\'t that increase the chance of loss? Do I need a G5 or 4Gig Pentibum to take part? I am concerned about climate change. To me, contributing to this DC project is just a minor way to act accordingly. Right now, I feel like wasting resources. This program does not make me feel like my participation is wanted. Am I wrong?
12) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : Can\'t get any decent results, detached from project. (Message 17706) Posted 4 Dec 2005 by old_user127370 Post: I installed BOINC 5.2.13 with all those libraries on a G4 Dual 1,25 GHz, no problems except for being really slow: 9,7 s/TS on a 1,25 GHz clock? Maybe I should try my Pentium I MMX with 133 MHz and 32 MB RAM instead? I cannot believe this code is done for Macs ... However, what I disliked was that it is quite tricky to find out where the libraries stuff was installed to, just in case I somewhen may want to get rid of it.