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1) Questions and Answers : Windows : Finished with climateprediction.net (Message 22927)
Posted 26 May 2006 by John Perko
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My machine just finished 3 weeks of work on a unit with the following messages:

05/24/06 10:53:18 PM||request_reschedule_cpus: process exited
05/24/06 10:53:18 PM|climateprediction.net|Computation for result sulphur_ib7i_100854334_0 finished
05/24/06 10:53:21 PM|rosetta@home|Starting result t285_HOMOLOG_ABRELAX_hom001__518_23375_0 using rosetta version 516
05/24/06 10:53:21 PM|climateprediction.net|Unrecoverable error for result sulphur_ib7i_100854334_0 (<file_xfer_error> <file_name>sulphur_ib7i_100854334_0_5.zip</file_name> <error_code>-161</error_code> <error_message></error_message></file_xfer_error>)
05/24/06 10:54:26 PM|climateprediction.net|Sending scheduler request to http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc_cgi/cgi
05/24/06 10:54:26 PM|climateprediction.net|Reason: To fetch work
05/24/06 10:54:26 PM|climateprediction.net|Requesting 172800 seconds of new work, and reporting 1 results
05/24/06 10:54:32 PM|climateprediction.net|Scheduler request to http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc_cgi/cgi succeeded
05/24/06 10:54:34 PM|climateprediction.net|Started download of hadcm3lbm_aj2m_05260545.zip
05/24/06 10:54:34 PM|climateprediction.net|Started download of SULPC_OXIDANTS_19_A2_1990.mod.gz
05/24/06 10:54:36 PM|climateprediction.net|Finished download of hadcm3lbm_aj2m_05260545.zip

That\'s it. No attempt to transfer again; it just downloaded another unit and started running again. Thousands of cpu-hours blown.

I don\'t give damn about the credit, I\'m trying do some science. I reiterate what I said before on the Rosetta forum. It is not my responsibility to make these models run. The people who write them are responsible for fixing them.

What a waste. I am now permanently disconnecting from climateprediction and giving all my resources to Rosetta. I don\'t feel the effort is worth it. There\'s plenty of good climate research out there already.
2) Questions and Answers : Windows : BOINC asking for internet connection when it has one already (Message 21621)
Posted 26 Mar 2006 by John Perko
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My BOINC 5.2.13 periodically shoots up a balloon from the system tray with a Network Status message asking for a connection to the internet, when I already have a continuous connection, and BOINC uses it without interruption. Does anyone know how to stop this message. Thanks.
3) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Notifying the project of a crashed model? (Message 17067)
Posted 8 Nov 2005 by John Perko
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Thanks. How does the server know it has failed? Does it flag it as one to be re-issued after a certain interval in which there is no communication from the client about that particular WU?
4) Questions and Answers : Preferences : Notifying the project of a crashed model? (Message 17064)
Posted 8 Nov 2005 by John Perko
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The CP project, in its license agreement, asks to be notified when a WU crashes, so they can assign it to someone else, but they don\'t say who to notify.

I got a FORTRAN end-of-file read error using BOINC 5.2.6 during WU 1ktv_100094407, so I reset the project. Perhaps its recoverable?

Thanks for any advice.

John
5) Questions and Answers : Windows : Constant network traffic (Message 16864)
Posted 29 Oct 2005 by John Perko
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The manager and the core will still need to communicate even when the manager is minimized to the tray. Exiting the manager should end the extra traffic you are seeing. They pass messages back and forth every 2 to 10 seconds.[/quote]


I think you hit it, John. I haven\'t seen such behavior before. I\'m not sure why they have to communicate over ports. If there\'s a link somewhere that explains more about this, I would be happy to have it. Thanks.
6) Questions and Answers : Windows : Constant network traffic (Message 16795)
Posted 27 Oct 2005 by John Perko
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I have \"Network activity suspended\" and yet the Zonealarm system tray icon and Overview page indicates traffic initiated by BOINC manager about every 2 seconds. No messages are reported during this time. Also an Einstein@Home work unit is listed as Ready to Report. I suspend all the work units listed and the traffic continues. Who could they be talking to?


boincmgr.exe and boinc.exe communicate with each other via ports - could that be the traffic you are seeing? When you close boincmgr down, to the tray, does the activity continue.

Ian


When BOINC manager is in the tray, traffic still continues. In answer to another question, I know it\'s BOINC, because the BOINC icon on the Zonealarm Security Suite Overview page (on top) is blinking when traffic occurs. Suspending BOINC in the Manager\'s Command menu doesn\'t stop it. The only thing that stops the traffic is completely exiting the program. Les mentioned a good point. I do have a router and it may just be talking to it, though I can\'t imagine why.

I suppose this is just paranoia or nitpicking--your choice.

Thanks, everybody.

John
7) Questions and Answers : Windows : Constant network traffic (Message 16773)
Posted 25 Oct 2005 by John Perko
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The new BOINC 5.22 runs with constant network traffic. I don\'t see why these projects can\'t run without continuous contact with their home servers.


Can you explain what you mean by \"continuous contact\".

I\'ve been running 5.22 for a couple of days now (and 5.21 before it) and it only appears to contact the server when needed - exactly the same as previous versions of BOINC.

Ian


I have \"Network activity suspended\" and yet the Zonealarm system tray icon and Overview page indicates traffic initiated by BOINC manager about every 2 seconds. No messages are reported during this time. Also an Einstein@Home work unit is listed as Ready to Report. I suspend all the work units listed and the traffic continues. Who could they be talking to?
8) Questions and Answers : Windows : Constant network traffic (Message 16713)
Posted 23 Oct 2005 by John Perko
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The new BOINC 5.22 runs with constant network traffic. I don\'t see why these projects can\'t run without continuous contact with their home servers.

I tried to re-install 4.45, but 5.22 apparently did something to the data, because trying to run 4.45 gets a fatal error and the program doesn\'t start.

I\'m beginning to think that this project is getting too complicated for its own good. I\'m thinking of bailing. The problems we\'ve been having lately (especially with climateprediction.net and their lack of communication with the people trying to help them do their research) are becoming not worth my time.
9) Questions and Answers : Windows : Suggestion re: upload problems (Message 15727)
Posted 6 Sep 2005 by John Perko
Post:
9/5/2005 11:30:40 PM|climateprediction.net|Temporarily failed upload of 3v5p_100202159_1_4.zip: -106
9/5/2005 11:30:40 PM|climateprediction.net|Giving up on upload of 3v5p_100202159_1_4.zip: too much elapsed time
9/5/2005 11:30:40 PM|climateprediction.net|Started upload of 3v5p_100202159_1_5.zip
9/5/2005 11:31:01 PM|climateprediction.net|Temporarily failed upload of 3v5p_100202159_1_5.zip: -106
9/5/2005 11:31:01 PM|climateprediction.net|Giving up on upload of 3v5p_100202159_1_5.zip: too much elapsed time
9/5/2005 11:31:02 PM|climateprediction.net|Sending scheduler request to http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc_cgi/cgi
9/5/2005 11:31:02 PM|climateprediction.net|Requesting 0 seconds of work, returning 1 results
9/5/2005 11:31:03 PM|climateprediction.net|Scheduler request to http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc_cgi/cgi succeeded

I assume from Les Bayliss's post that there is no way at present to upload these results after you get the "giving up..." message, even though the results are still on the disk. Please let me know if this is the case. Thanks.

I think the people who are managing this project are responsible for prominently displaying on the climateprediction web site that there is something terribly wrong and instructions for saving results (if possible). There's no need to force participants to rummage through the discussion forums. If you look at the web site, you'd think nothing at all is wrong, when the whole project is actually locked up.




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