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Glenn Carver

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Message 68194 - Posted: 3 Feb 2023, 15:48:46 UTC

Problems with files not downloading from download.cpdn.org have now been fixed so I'm told.
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Message 68195 - Posted: 3 Feb 2023, 18:00:54 UTC - in response to Message 68194.  

Problems with files not downloading from download.cpdn.org have now been fixed so I'm told.
The HadSM4 retread, that was pending in the transfers tab for several days, has downloaded and is 'ready to start'.
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Message 68198 - Posted: 4 Feb 2023, 15:13:11 UTC - in response to Message 68195.  
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Problems with files not downloading from download.cpdn.org have now been fixed so I'm told.

Too late for the undownloadable task I aborted after my previous post.

But as if it heard you, my Mac was working on another HadCM3 from a year ago this morning that it had successfully downloaded last night. It's uploaded three trickles so far and these — like the trickles for all three of the tasks it's completed recently — are not showing in the task page.
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Message 68199 - Posted: 4 Feb 2023, 15:53:38 UTC - in response to Message 68191.  

I do have a mac version of OpenIFS that could be rolled out with a bit more work. Unfortunately I don't have any the new Apple silicon to test it out on and neither do CPDN (it's built on High Sierra).

You don't necessarily need an Apple Silicon machine.
AFAIK the ARM based Macs do have an emulation layer for Intel applications, so if you have an Intel app it should run on an ARM equipped Mac as well provided it has been built on 64-bit only code.
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Message 68205 - Posted: 4 Feb 2023, 17:11:21 UTC - in response to Message 68199.  
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I do have a mac version of OpenIFS that could be rolled out with a bit more work. Unfortunately I don't have any the new Apple silicon to test it out on and neither do CPDN (it's built on High Sierra).
You don't necessarily need an Apple Silicon machine.
AFAIK the ARM based Macs do have an emulation layer for Intel applications, so if you have an Intel app it should run on an ARM equipped Mac as well provided it has been built on 64-bit only code.
Yes, I know. But for testing purposes I would rather develop & test on the real hardware - it just make diagnosing problems more certain.
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Message 68212 - Posted: 6 Feb 2023, 17:33:16 UTC - in response to Message 68205.  

Yes, I know. But for testing purposes I would rather develop & test on the real hardware - it just make diagnosing problems more certain.

You could roll out a Macintosh version for Intel and/or ask for someone who is ready to test on Silicon.
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Message 68223 - Posted: 8 Feb 2023, 9:22:32 UTC
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The second of my two massively long-running HadAM 4 tasks finished on Saturday, uploaded, and reported in. Once again the trickle has failed to appear on the task page (https://www.cpdn.org/result.php?resultid=22197506), and no credit has been awarded. I'll be setting No New Tasks on CPDN until I see the credit and trickles, and another project that does do something with the results I return can have the CPU time and donated electricty.
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Message 68224 - Posted: 8 Feb 2023, 15:54:56 UTC - in response to Message 68223.  

The second of my two massively long-running HadAM 4 tasks finished on Saturday, uploaded, and reported in. Once again the trickle has failed to appear on the task page (https://www.cpdn.org/result.php?resultid=22197506), and no credit has been awarded. I'll be setting No New Tasks on CPDN until I see the credit and trickles, and another project that does do something with the results I return can have the CPU time and donated electricty.


To be fair, I agree if a task sent almost a year ago has only just finished, CPDN is probably not the best project for you. The current work units are much shorter but do require enough RAM that you would likely have problems running more than one at a time with anything much else running at the same time. Andy is aware of the credit problem but the contract to get the current work sorted is taking priority at the moment. In my experience, the credit problems do eventually get sorted out but it does sometimes take longer than I would like.
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Message 68225 - Posted: 8 Feb 2023, 17:45:01 UTC - in response to Message 68224.  

To be fair, I agree if a task sent almost a year ago has only just finished, CPDN is probably not the best project for you.


Wow! Glancing at my Had-am4 n216 tasks, they took a little over 8 days. Not years. The last one completed 2 Jul 2022, 4:27:24 UTC.

Is your machine really that slow? Do you not have enough RAM and are thrashing to swap disk?
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Message 68226 - Posted: 8 Feb 2023, 17:57:49 UTC - in response to Message 68224.  

I don't know why these HadAM4 at N216 resolution v8.52 tasks took so long (and I got them on the rebound because the both of them had timed out after a year). Earlier ones crunched by the same host took much less time.
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Message 68227 - Posted: 8 Feb 2023, 18:50:49 UTC - in response to Message 68226.  

I don't know why these HadAM4 at N216 resolution v8.52 tasks took so long (and I got them on the rebound because the both of them had timed out after a year). Earlier ones crunched by the same host took much less time.


Could this (below) be the reason? Why is its execution suspended so very, very, very often? My guess is that you are running other tasks that are much more important to your boinc client than this one was, and you had enough of them to keep this one from running for a very long time (until the deadline approaches?). Do you give CPDN a very small resource share compared to any other projects you may be running?
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Message 68228 - Posted: 8 Feb 2023, 19:06:14 UTC - in response to Message 68227.  

Either that, or maybe you have "Suspend when computer is in use?" selected - and the computer is heavily used?
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Message 68229 - Posted: 8 Feb 2023, 23:25:32 UTC - in response to Message 68228.  

I found I was getting lots of suspend requests when CPU use was set to less than 100%. Now using 100% and no suspends.
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Message 68230 - Posted: 9 Feb 2023, 1:36:54 UTC - in response to Message 68229.  

Alan K: you get my vote. I seem to remember setting CPU usage to 95%, or some such thing, to let my processors run cooler. I quit that as soon as I saw what it did.
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Message 68231 - Posted: 9 Feb 2023, 9:51:53 UTC

Your guesses are all wrong.

The host is a desktop machine used for work, work that is mostly not CPU intensive, as per the original use case intent of BOINC. Like any other desktop machine I do hibernate it at the end of each working day. Hibernation does mean it takes longer for tasks to complete than they would if the machine was on 24/7, but it doesn't explain why these two tasks stand out compared to other tasks of the same type run on the same host. The "Suspended CPDN Monitor - Suspend request from BOINC..." messages are generated when the machine hibernates, and there are so many of them simply because these tasks took such a long time to complete (BTW, it doesn't aid readablity to copy and paste a large number of identical log messages into a forum post).

I do throttle BOINC (latterly with TThrottle) to reduce fan noise and processor temperature, which will also slow progress. However, again that doesn't explain why these two tasks stand out compared to other tasks of the same type run on the same host.

Since this is machine is used daily for work, I don't tolerate disk thrashing for very long. There were a few issues with disk thrashing right at the start of the run of these two tasks that I had to manage, but Googling revealed there was a problem with WSL2 virtual memory management, and indeed the problem disappeared (presumably with a Windows update). Also I do keep an eye on tasks during work breaks, so I know pretty quickly if things are less obviously going wrong.

Use of WSL2 may slow tasks compared to native, but again that doesn't explain why these two tasks stand out compared to other tasks of the same type run on the same host. Also, it would be unwise to just assume WSL2 is hopelessly slow, as Universe@Home tasks run several times faster on WSL2 than they do on the WSL2 host.

If these tasks had behaved as other similar HadAM4 tasks run on this host, they would have finished many months ago.
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Message 68232 - Posted: 9 Feb 2023, 11:40:12 UTC
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Your guesses are all wrong.
Yet, something has been making the task stop computing because the CPU time is broadly in line with other tasks of the same type run on that box. Whether something to do with the task or something different on the computer, possibly related to an update, I can't say from here.
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Message 68236 - Posted: 9 Feb 2023, 16:38:36 UTC - in response to Message 68232.  

It's a good thought, Dave, though they did in fact use about 40% more CPU time (interestingly, the final reported time for these two tasks is not the same as the time up to the last reported trickle). But that doesn't account for the massive increase in overall time taken, so maybe something was just pushed over the edge by these tasks (whatever that edge might be), and caused a significant long-term performance drop? For example, maybe there was an increase in disk swapping that had a big impact on performance over a long time, but which wasn't enough day-to-day for me to notice whilst I was working (I might just grumble about a slow web page load, or a slow application start, and carry on with life as normal because it wasn't sufficiently annoying).
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Message 68237 - Posted: 9 Feb 2023, 23:30:41 UTC - in response to Message 68236.  

It's a good thought, Dave, though they did in fact use about 40% more CPU time (interestingly, the final reported time for these two tasks is not the same as the time up to the last reported trickle). But that doesn't account for the massive increase in overall time taken, so maybe something was just pushed over the edge by these tasks (whatever that edge might be), and caused a significant long-term performance drop? For example, maybe there was an increase in disk swapping that had a big impact on performance over a long time, but which wasn't enough day-to-day for me to notice whilst I was working (I might just grumble about a slow web page load, or a slow application start, and carry on with life as normal because it wasn't sufficiently annoying).
It's almost certainly a degree of swapping or frequent model restarts from checkpoints. Any swapping for these models makes a huge impact on performance. The suspend/resume pair normally keeps the model in memory, but because these tasks always run with the lowest system priority, if anything else wants the memory they will get kicked out and have to restart. The thing about restarts is the model has to go back and repeat some timesteps from its last checkpoint. If it restarts frequently, that adds up to a longer overall runtime. The solution is to reduce how many are running concurrently if you spot this.

The cputime on the trickles is a display issue on the webpage. CPDN looked at that recently. The value is sent to the server but some some unknown reason it doesn't get displayed.
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Message 68240 - Posted: 10 Feb 2023, 8:17:29 UTC - in response to Message 68231.  
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Use of WSL2 may slow tasks compared to native, but again that doesn't explain why these two tasks stand out compared to other tasks of the same type run on the same host. Also, it would be unwise to just assume WSL2 is hopelessly slow, as Universe@Home tasks run several times faster on WSL2 than they do on the WSL2 host.

No, WSL2 is not slow, I doubt there's a significant difference in runtimes for BOINC work between WSL2 and regular Linux installations. As for Universe, I'm guessing you meant to compare WSL2 to Windows. Universe might be the only project that runs significantly faster on Linux than Windows, so it's Linux in general not WSL2 specifically. A few years ago some Linux math library(ies) got updated which made a huge difference for Universe. Ever since I found out, I never run Universe on Windows, always on Linux (WSL2 in my case too).

It is quite amazing that those 2 Hadley models ran for almost a year and not crash. As to why there were 2-3 months between trickles is a bit puzzling. What Glenn said seems to make the most sense. It seems likely that the tasks kept restarting from the same checkpoint many times before finally getting to the next check point and this kept happening.
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Message 68242 - Posted: 10 Feb 2023, 10:21:47 UTC - in response to Message 68212.  
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Yes, I know. But for testing purposes I would rather develop & test on the real hardware - it just make diagnosing problems more certain.

You could roll out a Macintosh version for Intel and/or ask for someone who is ready to test on Silicon.
Well, we've decided to roll out a Intel build of OpenIFS for macOS and see how it behaves...
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