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Message 67449 - Posted: 9 Jan 2023, 9:27:31 UTC - in response to Message 67447.  
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I don't know which server they were going to. Would that info still be around and how would one look it up? A couple of example tasks:
Found it, it is upload11. Knowing the server is most useful when zips are not getting uploaded. It can be found at the time by going to client_state.xml and looking for where uploads go to. I was asking on the off chance that you had looked it up. Thinking about it, it probably won't make much difference because it probably a script that stopped running to handle the trickle ups.

Edit: I had to go somewhere only the moderators have access to to find it. (Now I know where it is going to be really easy.
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Message 67747 - Posted: 15 Jan 2023, 15:40:41 UTC
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Over the last few weeks, a lot of my tasks have uploaded. And if I look at the CPDN web site for my tasks, almost all of them have received credit. Yet if I look at my projects list, my average work done has steadily decreased to about 50.54. If I look at the statistics graph for the last month, it has dropped from 1600 to about 50.

I am confused that the CPDN web site seems to know I have received lots of credit but wherever the projects list and the statistics graph get their data from, they have not been getting the credits for a month or so.

Notice: my signature box (below) seems to know I am getting credits (though I do not know if it is up-to-date).
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Message 67749 - Posted: 15 Jan 2023, 16:25:29 UTC - in response to Message 67747.  

my signature box (below) seems to know I am getting credits (though I do not know if it is up-to-date).

Your signature box is getting its information through Boincstats.
Boincstats is calculating your average credit on its own.
Projects differ about how to calculate their average, so it's fine to have a single method through Boincstats.
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Greetings, Jens
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Message 67752 - Posted: 15 Jan 2023, 17:07:42 UTC - in response to Message 67747.  
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Over the last few weeks, a lot of my tasks have uploaded. And if I look at the CPDN web site for my tasks, almost all of them have received credit. Yet if I look at my projects list, my average work done has steadily decreased to about 50.54. If I look at the statistics graph for the last month, it has dropped from 1600 to about 50.

I am confused that the CPDN web site seems to know I have received lots of credit but wherever the projects list and the statistics graph get their data from, they have not been getting the credits for a month or so.

Notice: my signature box (below) seems to know I am getting credits (though I do not know if it is up-to-date).


I’d second this.

Over the past month I’ve accumulated about 275,000 credits (about 240,000 over the past fortnight) and Boinc is showing a RAC of 12.05 overall and zero for the host that’s doing the work.

BoincStats is showing no better.
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Message 67753 - Posted: 15 Jan 2023, 17:16:29 UTC
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BOINC is showing its weekly increase in credit from CPDN today on my machine. If not showing on BOINCSTATS, I wonder if CPDN have changed something so BOINCSTATS is looking in the wrong place or the page where it looks hasn't been updated for some reason. If it looks either is the case I will email Andy.
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Message 67754 - Posted: 15 Jan 2023, 17:19:19 UTC - in response to Message 67753.  
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BOINC is showing its weekly increase in credit from CPDN today. If not showing on BOINCSTATS, I wonder if CPDN have changed something so BOINCSTATS is looking in the wrong place or the page where it looks hasn't been updated for some reason. If it looks like that is the case I will email Andy.


It’s the CPDN account management page that’s not being updated before it goes to BoincStats. I think the delay to BS is just that the update missed the cutoff.
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Message 67755 - Posted: 15 Jan 2023, 17:21:58 UTC - in response to Message 67752.  

And I'll third it.

BOINCstats keeps track of both the project's average (the 'RAC' you see below our names to the left), and its own rather more agile calculation. Here's mine:



As you can see, the blue line (CPDN's calculation) is falling, where BOINCstats' calculation is rising. It seems to have gone wrong in the last week of November, round about the time that credit stopped being awarded for the Hadley models. Also, although credit was re-calculated here at CPDN this morning, the new figures haven't been collected by BOINCstats yet - they usually collect and process them in the early afternoon.
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Message 67757 - Posted: 15 Jan 2023, 18:28:37 UTC - in response to Message 67755.  

BOINCstats keeps track of both the project's average (the 'RAC' you see below our names to the left), and its own rather more agile calculation.


Mine is nothing like yours. I wonder why.

http://www.boincstats.com/stats/-1/user/detail/27086/charts
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Message 67758 - Posted: 15 Jan 2023, 18:55:58 UTC - in response to Message 67757.  

I wonder why.
Because you looked at the page for 'combined' stats - all the BOINC projects you've ever crunched, added together. These are your stats for CPDN by itself:

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Message 67759 - Posted: 15 Jan 2023, 19:17:52 UTC - in response to Message 67758.  

If they have a credit script running once a week and not using the default Boinc process do they also run a RAC script to update the RAC as well ? If so, it might need a kick.
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Message 67762 - Posted: 15 Jan 2023, 21:38:38 UTC - in response to Message 67758.  

Thank you.
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Message 67764 - Posted: 16 Jan 2023, 2:32:43 UTC

I'm hoping that moving all that stuff off the upload server won't cause issues when trying to fix the missing credit problem for Hadley models, which is still ongoing by the way, i.e. recently finished tasks aren't getting credit. I think many of the Hadley models also upload to upload11 server.
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Message 67818 - Posted: 17 Jan 2023, 20:27:08 UTC - in response to Message 67764.  

I have the problem too (no credit) :

https://www.cpdn.org/results.php?hostid=1532321&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=

The upload server is : 11



Kali.
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Message 67829 - Posted: 18 Jan 2023, 9:07:40 UTC

The issues with OIFS have died down enough now. I have informed Andy and linked to this thread.
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Message 67830 - Posted: 18 Jan 2023, 9:11:35 UTC - in response to Message 67818.  

I have the problem too (no credit) :

https://www.cpdn.org/results.php?hostid=1532321&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=

The upload server is : 11



Kali.
Some of those tasks were after the credit script should have run on Sunday. Not sure why the others are not showing credit. I will do some digging and then let Andy know there are some issues with OIFS credit as well as for Hadley models.
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Message 68030 - Posted: 25 Jan 2023, 8:49:41 UTC

A HadAM4 task one of my hosts was running that was marked as completed on 16 Jan 2023 still has not appeared as a credit on the stats websites. It looks like the final trickle didn't receive any credit:

https://www.cpdn.org/result.php?resultid=22197505
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Message 68031 - Posted: 25 Jan 2023, 9:17:16 UTC - in response to Message 68030.  

A HadAM4 task one of my hosts was running that was marked as completed on 16 Jan 2023 still has not appeared as a credit on the stats websites. It looks like the final trickle didn't receive any credit:

https://www.cpdn.org/result.php?resultid=22197505


From Andy yesterday.

Hi Dave,

Thank you yes. The run last week was interrupted by the deployment of an updated app. I can set it running sooner or we can wait for it to run again this week.
Best wishes,

Andy

If after next weekend's run of the script there is no change i will message Andy again.
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Message 68032 - Posted: 25 Jan 2023, 9:17:50 UTC - in response to Message 68030.  

A HadAM4 task one of my hosts was running that was marked as completed on 16 Jan 2023 still has not appeared as a credit on the stats websites. It looks like the final trickle didn't receive any credit:

This is a known issue that's been going on since at least the end of November. Most of the messages above yours are regarding this same problem. Unfortunately it's unlikely to get fixed until after the current upload issue gets resolved and who knows when that's going to happen.
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Message 68033 - Posted: 25 Jan 2023, 9:27:34 UTC - in response to Message 68032.  

A HadAM4 task one of my hosts was running that was marked as completed on 16 Jan 2023 still has not appeared as a credit on the stats websites. It looks like the final trickle didn't receive any credit:

This is a known issue that's been going on since at least the end of November. Most of the messages above yours are regarding this same problem. Unfortunately it's unlikely to get fixed until after the current upload issue gets resolved and who knows when that's going to happen.

After next run I will link this thread in my email to Andy.
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Message 68035 - Posted: 25 Jan 2023, 9:34:07 UTC

There is also the problem that the "average credit" (RAC) is not being calculated for IFS tasks. I don't that there's any significance to a particular credit run having been interrupted: it's happened every Sunday since 4 December 2022, when the first IFS credit was granted.
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