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Message 63134 - Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 0:15:18 UTC - in response to Message 63132.  

Sigh

I must have been half asleep when I posted

I indeed have only one WU

And the expected run time is 12 days, not 12 hours

But a 1 year deadline is still ludicrous
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Message 63136 - Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 0:31:58 UTC - in response to Message 63134.  

The 1 year has been there since the start of the project, and has been talked about ad nauseam on this board.
The project people have said that they are OK with it, and it's not going to change.
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Message 63183 - Posted: 26 Dec 2020, 9:55:20 UTC

Don't know if it will works, but it's just a try:
- changes other projects weights trough respective web account according to your choice. For example: 100% for LHC and 200% for climateprediction.
If you use only cpu for Primegrid and Milkway, set a weight also for their. For example: 100% for Primegrid and 100% for Milkyway.
If you use only gpu for Primegrid and Milkyway, they will be accounted separately from cpu projects.
- edit your cc_config.xml by adding this option:
<options>
<rec_half_life_days>1</rec_half_life_days>
</options>

- save, exit from editor and reload boinc configuration or reboot him.
- wait some days, maybe ten days: climateprediction is slow to give credits, so boinc client can't do his math everyday.

After first climateprediction credit update (thurdsday?), you should see some difference on running projects and boinc client should start to respect the weights you set.

Hope it works. :-)
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Message 63184 - Posted: 26 Dec 2020, 17:38:24 UTC - in response to Message 63136.  

The 1 year has been there since the start of the project, and has been talked about ad nauseam on this board.
The project people have said that they are OK with it, and it's not going to change.
Why am I thinking of a mule?
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Message 63185 - Posted: 26 Dec 2020, 18:11:56 UTC - in response to Message 63184.  

The 1 year has been there since the start of the project, and has been talked about ad nauseam on this board.
The project people have said that they are OK with it, and it's not going to change.
Why am I thinking of a mule?

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You are not the only one. We are stuck in the days of Pentium 1 when it really used to take a year.
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Message 63186 - Posted: 26 Dec 2020, 19:59:49 UTC - in response to Message 63185.  

You are not the only one. We are stuck in the days of Pentium 1 when it really used to take a year.


Longest any of mine took was just under 11 months. In those days, you really did not want to have a computer that was not running 24/7 for CPDN.
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Message 63189 - Posted: 27 Dec 2020, 6:41:33 UTC - in response to Message 63186.  

You are not the only one. We are stuck in the days of Pentium 1 when it really used to take a year.


Longest any of mine took was just under 11 months. In those days, you really did not want to have a computer that was not running 24/7 for CPDN.


And that was on a single core machine with a 1.2 GHz processor and 256 KB of Ram. The swap file got a lot of use. The 160 year models took 3300 hours to finish.
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Message 63190 - Posted: 27 Dec 2020, 9:54:40 UTC

I am just glad that the project did not start out in the Medieval period. The deadlines would be 50 years and unchangeable by advances in technology.
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Message 63191 - Posted: 27 Dec 2020, 10:33:51 UTC

What everyone should be thankful for, is that there's any work at all, with the SE of the UK in hard lock down.
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Message 63193 - Posted: 27 Dec 2020, 13:19:14 UTC - in response to Message 63190.  

I am just glad that the project did not start out in the Medieval period. The deadlines would be 50 years and unchangeable by advances in technology.

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Advances in Science and Technology are not dependent on Official Paperwork where things move from desk to desk in God knows how many copies.

Les, we are all very grateful to CPDN. That is another thing that as a retired Seafarer this subject is very dear to me. We should all give thanks to the Powers to be.
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Message 63194 - Posted: 27 Dec 2020, 16:04:02 UTC

It seems that they have more immediate problems at the moment:

Storm Bella continues to batter the UK with gusts reaching more than 100mph and danger to life flood warnings in place.
Bitter winds and icy conditions have plagued the Christmas break, with further freezing temperatures expected in the coming days.

The top wind speed of 106mph was recorded at the Needles on the Isle of Wight on Saturday night, while Aberdaron in north west Wales experienced gusts of 83mph.
Meanwhile, two threat to life flood warnings remain in place in Northamptonshire, and the River Great Ouse in Bedfordshire burst its banks onto adjacent playing fields.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/27/uk-weather-warnings-place-storm-bella-unleashes-heavy-rain/
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Message 63196 - Posted: 27 Dec 2020, 21:56:25 UTC - in response to Message 63194.  

Meanwhile, two threat to life flood warnings remain in place in Northamptonshire, and the River Great Ouse in Bedfordshire burst its banks onto adjacent playing fields.


Great Ouse also burst its banks in Buckingham.
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Message 63197 - Posted: 27 Dec 2020, 23:40:22 UTC - in response to Message 63196.  

And some flooding in Cirencester.
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Message 63199 - Posted: 28 Dec 2020, 16:25:21 UTC - in response to Message 63194.  

It seems that they have more immediate problems at the moment:

Storm Bella continues to batter the UK with gusts reaching more than 100mph and danger to life flood warnings in place.
Bitter winds and icy conditions have plagued the Christmas break, with further freezing temperatures expected in the coming days.

The top wind speed of 106mph was recorded at the Needles on the Isle of Wight on Saturday night, while Aberdaron in north west Wales experienced gusts of 83mph.
Meanwhile, two threat to life flood warnings remain in place in Northamptonshire, and the River Great Ouse in Bedfordshire burst its banks onto adjacent playing fields.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/27/uk-weather-warnings-place-storm-bella-unleashes-heavy-rain/
Got a bit breezy in Scotland, I saw some leaves waving a little in my hedge. People do make such a fuss nowadays, 2 inches of snow and they close the roads.
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Message 63200 - Posted: 28 Dec 2020, 16:26:30 UTC - in response to Message 63191.  
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What everyone should be thankful for, is that there's any work at all,
For Windows users (the most common OS in the world) there isn't much. Why do they put most of it on Linux?

with the SE of the UK in hard lock down.
Unless they have police and army on the streets stopping you exiting your home (like the Netherlands and China), it's not a lockdown. All we have is advice which I ignore entirely.
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Message 63201 - Posted: 28 Dec 2020, 18:04:12 UTC - in response to Message 63200.  

The model types developed for different platforms are better suited to different climate modelling tasks.

also as noted elsewhere, there have historically been much longer periods without work for Linux than any recent dearth of Windows tasks.
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Message 63214 - Posted: 29 Dec 2020, 10:28:25 UTC - in response to Message 63200.  

Unless they have police and army on the streets stopping you exiting your home (like the Netherlands and China), it's not a lockdown. All we have is advice which I ignore entirely.
There's no one here stopping us from exiting our home. It's still entirely allowed.
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Message 63216 - Posted: 29 Dec 2020, 18:00:42 UTC - in response to Message 63201.  

The model types developed for different platforms are better suited to different climate modelling tasks.

also as noted elsewhere, there have historically been much longer periods without work for Linux than any recent dearth of Windows tasks.
Ah ok. I guess it's just what OS each of the research groups are more familiar with. And it's not like other projects where they have to get as many users as they can.

Ah well I have 35 of my 90 CPU cores running it now, I managed to get a batch just as I was leaving for my holiday which was probably illegal, I don't bother trying to keep up with the ever changing laws.
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Message 63217 - Posted: 29 Dec 2020, 18:01:55 UTC - in response to Message 63214.  

Unless they have police and army on the streets stopping you exiting your home (like the Netherlands and China), it's not a lockdown. All we have is advice which I ignore entirely.
There's no one here stopping us from exiting our home. It's still entirely allowed.
Oh. Someone over in the Boinc forums in the NL suggested it wasn't, and was rather angry about it. Come to think of it, I think he was only referring to one area.
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Message 63218 - Posted: 30 Dec 2020, 2:42:54 UTC - in response to Message 63216.  

The model types developed for different platforms are better suited to different climate modelling tasks.

also as noted elsewhere, there have historically been much longer periods without work for Linux than any recent dearth of Windows tasks.
Ah ok. I guess it's just what OS each of the research groups are more familiar with. And it's not like other projects where they have to get as many users as they can.

Ah well I have 35 of my 90 CPU cores running it now, I managed to get a batch just as I was leaving for my holiday which was probably illegal, I don't bother trying to keep up with the ever changing laws.

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If you have so many threads idle why do you not try to run a Virtual Machine with Linux as the OS? Take advantage of best of both the worlds. If you do not have any experience of VM's, you will find a lot of people on these forums ever willing to help you out. Just walk over to the Linux Forums and read. Then go over to the download section of Boinc and follow the instructions. You will find a link about package manager and Docker written somewhere. Click it and follow the instructions strictly with common sense.
Win, win situation. Best of both the worlds. May error out a few WU's but you will advance along the learning curve and CPDN also wins. Try it, you will have no regrets.
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