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Message 61533 - Posted: 14 Nov 2019, 13:19:45 UTC - in response to Message 61530.  

Might as well abort, I can't see them finding what's wrong any time soon.
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Message 61539 - Posted: 15 Nov 2019, 2:46:32 UTC - in response to Message 61533.  

I logged onto the machine now intending to abort it and funnily enough the transfer had finally succeeded just a couple of hours ago. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Message 61540 - Posted: 15 Nov 2019, 3:52:05 UTC - in response to Message 61539.  

That's good.
After I posted here, I put a message on our project board, and the researcher in Mexico picked it up soon after and posted:

Hi! there was a a brief shutdown the 26th of October (for maintenance), so that might be the cause.


They're going to look into it when they're back in the office.
I Thought: Great. Too late now.

I'll post another internal message.
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Message 61557 - Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 4:40:33 UTC - in response to Message 61540.  

Very good thanks for sorting it out then.
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Message 63492 - Posted: 5 Feb 2021, 16:13:27 UTC - in response to Message 61557.  

Hi

I can't get WUs to upload either
Upload : Pending (project backoff> and then a timer)
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Message 63493 - Posted: 5 Feb 2021, 19:08:02 UTC - in response to Message 63492.  

If you're talking about batch 869, PNW, then it's been closed.
Sorry, but you took too long.

Just abort them.
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Message 63494 - Posted: 5 Feb 2021, 21:24:20 UTC - in response to Message 60096.  

So out of curiosity, how much internet should I be using *per* task vs. drive space? Is it 2 gb per task which progressively gets smaller on the drive as the task moves along? Additionally I'm guessing that if an upload fails it would show up either a) in the tasks list on the website or b) in the boinc transfers window?
I have my Toshiba laptop connected to wireless internet and sometimes it can be a bit far from the router if I'm working on it. Will this be an issue?


thanks


Currently I have ten tasks on my Ryzen. disk usage for CPDN is 25.5GB. My laptop with just one task is currently using 3GB disk space. Uploads from memory are about 100MB for the zips on my Linux boxes. The only time this is a problem for me with bored as opposed to broad band is during zoom calls when I suspend internet activity for BOINC. I think there is also the facility to restrict the bandwidth used but as it is on the same machine I use for Zoom, I just make sure BOINC can't grab my bandwidth.
Please do not private message myself or other moderators for help. This limits the number of people who are able to help and deprives others who may benefit from the answer.
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Message 63504 - Posted: 7 Feb 2021, 22:09:48 UTC - in response to Message 63493.  
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If you're talking about batch 869, PNW, then it's been closed.
Sorry, but you took too long.

Just abort them.


Thanks
Deadline of the Work Units was End of April this year - didn't know they become invalid if someone is quicker - good to know.
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Message 63506 - Posted: 7 Feb 2021, 22:29:39 UTC - in response to Message 63504.  

The "deadline" that's often quoted, is just a very long time to stop BOINC from causing problems when shorter tasks from other projects are run at the same time.

The ones that I mentioned, are the real deadlines here.

And whether or not the long BOINC time is needed anymore is the subject of much discussion.
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Message 63508 - Posted: 8 Feb 2021, 4:30:37 UTC - in response to Message 59955.  

We (Pakistan, South Asia) have had the warmest winter that I have seen in the past 65 years. It might become a record of sorts. Let us say, no winter at all. Just Autumn, Spring type temps.
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Message 63517 - Posted: 8 Feb 2021, 18:52:27 UTC - in response to Message 63506.  
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The "deadline" that's often quoted, is just a very long time to stop BOINC from causing problems when shorter tasks from other projects are run at the same time.

The ones that I mentioned, are the real deadlines here.

And whether or not the long BOINC time is needed anymore is the subject of much discussion.
At the risk of repeating what's already been said, if the server lies to the client and user about when the work must be done, it won't be done on time. If it has to be done in say 2 months, then set that as the deadline. Then the client will do it more urgently if it's nearing that time, and the user can know if their computer is too slow (or not switched on often enough) and wasting time doing these big tasks. Because of this nonsense, Merowig has just pointlessly wasted electricity running tasks that are now cancelled.
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Message 63518 - Posted: 8 Feb 2021, 18:53:06 UTC - in response to Message 63508.  

We (Pakistan, South Asia) have had the warmest winter that I have seen in the past 65 years. It might become a record of sorts. Let us say, no winter at all. Just Autumn, Spring type temps.
It's snowing here. The scientists obviously haven't told the clouds about the new regulations.
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Message 63519 - Posted: 8 Feb 2021, 23:38:03 UTC - in response to Message 63493.  

Would it be possible to post when batches are closed because enough results are in for the researchers to work on?
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Message 63520 - Posted: 9 Feb 2021, 0:04:54 UTC - in response to Message 63519.  

Usually they're closed a long time after they're issued, to free up storage space.

Several (all?) of the AFLAME batches have just been closed. This started in April 2019.

More than enough time to crunch them.
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Message 63521 - Posted: 9 Feb 2021, 4:30:56 UTC - in response to Message 63518.  

We (Pakistan, South Asia) have had the warmest winter that I have seen in the past 65 years. It might become a record of sorts. Let us say, no winter at all. Just Autumn, Spring type temps.
It's snowing here. The scientists obviously haven't told the clouds about the new regulations.

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Peter, what do scientists have to do with clouds? Just return us our snow. Himalayas, Hindu Kush, Pamirs, etc. A sort of drought or to confuse drouth, you can take whichever word you can understand. ;) p) This year will be the warmest on record.
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Message 63522 - Posted: 9 Feb 2021, 4:53:03 UTC - in response to Message 63521.  

And this thread is not about weather.
Personal observations about this should be in the Cafe section.
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Message 63524 - Posted: 9 Feb 2021, 17:58:00 UTC - in response to Message 63519.  

Would it be possible to post when batches are closed because enough results are in for the researchers to work on?
Or just abort the running tasks. This facility is available within Boinc. And no, it doesn't upset a user to have something cancelled, what upsets users is continuing to run something utterly pointless, using electricity which is contributing to the climate change you're trying to study.
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Message 63525 - Posted: 9 Feb 2021, 17:59:29 UTC - in response to Message 63521.  

We (Pakistan, South Asia) have had the warmest winter that I have seen in the past 65 years. It might become a record of sorts. Let us say, no winter at all. Just Autumn, Spring type temps.
It's snowing here. The scientists obviously haven't told the clouds about the new regulations.

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Peter, what do scientists have to do with clouds? Just return us our snow. Himalayas, Hindu Kush, Pamirs, etc. A sort of drought or to confuse drouth, you can take whichever word you can understand. ;) p) This year will be the warmest on record.
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I was implying the EU had dictated that our weather must be warmer so they haven't wasted money on "carbon credit" schemes.
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Message 63526 - Posted: 9 Feb 2021, 18:00:13 UTC - in response to Message 63522.  

And this thread is not about weather.
Personal observations about this should be in the Cafe section.
If a conversation drifts (perfectly normal for the English language), where is the button I click to create a link to continue it over there? Make one and I'll use it.
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Message 63527 - Posted: 9 Feb 2021, 18:05:02 UTC - in response to Message 63526.  

And this thread is not about weather.
Personal observations about this should be in the Cafe section.
If a conversation drifts (perfectly normal for the English language), where is the button I click to create a link to continue it over there? Make one and I'll use it.

The moderators can move posts, but only do that in extremis. If another thread were to be created then any comments in this thread could be easily shifted if requested, but it's more of a meandering conversation here at the moment. Upload failures is the topic of this thread, though, and people looking at the thread might well expect the conversation to be principally about that.
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