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Message 55215 - Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 4:12:10 UTC

Also, if you look at your list of computers, then look at the tasks for the oldest one, and look at the oldest task, you'll see that it wasn't validated either, and that was in 2010.

My oldest one is from 2011, and isn't validated.
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And the same applies to everyone else's.
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Message 55251 - Posted: 1 Dec 2016, 13:58:01 UTC
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It seems new WUs are in the hopper. I wonder if any is downloading them successfully? As indicated on another thread, currently some people experience download problems with both old and new WUs, so refraining from download until fixed might be the proper option.
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Message 55252 - Posted: 1 Dec 2016, 14:18:28 UTC - in response to Message 55251.  

I am getting the following on this machine.

01/12/2016 14:13:51 | climateprediction.net | Started download of ic19610329_12_N96.gz
01/12/2016 14:13:52 | climateprediction.net | Temporarily failed download of wus_region_restart_t02g_2000-09-01_2000-09-01.gz: connect() failed
01/12/2016 14:13:52 | climateprediction.net | Backing off 00:07:33 on download of wus_region_restart_t02g_2000-09-01_2000-09-01.gz
01/12/2016 14:13:52 | climateprediction.net | Temporarily failed download of ic19610329_12_N96.gz: connect() failed
01/12/2016 14:13:52 | climateprediction.net | Backing off 00:07:11 on download of ic19610329_12_N96.gz
01/12/2016 14:13:52 | | [http_xfer] [ID#0] HTTP: wrote 10435 bytes
01/12/2016 14:13:53 | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
01/12/2016 14:14:54 | climateprediction.net | [checkpoint] result hadam3p_eu_lpaj_201610_3_470_010785931_0 checkpointed

On all the files.
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Message 55253 - Posted: 1 Dec 2016, 14:25:05 UTC - in response to Message 55252.  

01/12/2016 14:14:54 | climateprediction.net | [checkpoint] result hadam3p_eu_lpaj_201610_3_470_010785931_0 checkpointed


I guess this in an old WU that you crunch and it is not related to the download failures above or?
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Message 55256 - Posted: 1 Dec 2016, 16:41:02 UTC - in response to Message 55253.  

Yes, unrelated, thought I had deleted that line after copy and paste but clearly not. Two tasks now downloaded successfully now however.

Nothing on my one machine running linux however.
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Message 55259 - Posted: 1 Dec 2016, 17:47:19 UTC - in response to Message 55256.  

[Dave Jackson wrote:] ... Nothing on my one machine running linux however.

The applications page on the old Web site, which I only infrequently used, turns out to be useful after all - as it said which applications were available for which platforms. The WUS25 models in the new batch are application version 8.24 on Windows: I don't know whether that's available on Linux. (Not Mac, I tried.)
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Message 55263 - Posted: 1 Dec 2016, 19:40:33 UTC - in response to Message 55259.  

They seem to be all gone as my WIN machine says no tasks available, though the server status page shows there are some. Or were as there seems to be quite a delay between what is visible on the page and the hopper.
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Message 55270 - Posted: 1 Dec 2016, 23:28:33 UTC - in response to Message 55251.  

Four downloaded OK after an initial hiccup.
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Message 55277 - Posted: 2 Dec 2016, 9:12:51 UTC

I don't know whether that's available on Linux. (Not Mac, I tried.)


Clearly not as that machine told me there were not tasks available for it. Perhaps I need to add wine to that one as well
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Message 55328 - Posted: 9 Dec 2016, 19:16:57 UTC

I see that there is a new batch of hadam3p_eu tasks in the hopper. Hopefully it is a big batch. They are the 3 month version so each one doesn’t last long.
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Message 55348 - Posted: 13 Dec 2016, 12:16:37 UTC

It is difficult to see when there are (new) tasks available as the server status page does not refresh on demand as before, hence no real time data is available. Additionally it might be also good platform information to be accommodated under each application on the server status page so once tasks are available users can easily identify whether their computers can crunch them.
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Message 55349 - Posted: 13 Dec 2016, 12:51:10 UTC - in response to Message 55348.  

That's covered in RECENT UPGRADE

It'll all be fixed by Christmas. Not sure which one, but definitely by then. :)
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Message 55350 - Posted: 13 Dec 2016, 13:06:39 UTC - in response to Message 55349.  

Thanks Les,
As I was not sure whether this got into the long and complicated e-mail I've list it here. So Christmas presents we are expecting :)
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Message 55355 - Posted: 14 Dec 2016, 9:18:42 UTC

On a positive front, all 8 of my cores across 3 computers are now crunching albeit pretending to be windows machines rather than native linux and the two I picked up overnight are both on their last chance.
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Message 55386 - Posted: 19 Dec 2016, 15:57:31 UTC

I see the offset of 322 on the tasks ready to send has gone. Also got 4 new tasks today but hopper was empty by the time I saw this and tried to get some on another box.
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Message 55458 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 17:41:30 UTC

My computers are getting kind of hungry. What we need is some new BIG batches of work. Anything in the beta testing that looks promising?
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Message 55459 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 18:45:33 UTC - in response to Message 55458.  

Hi Jim

These days there's not much info about when new work will arrive.
When it does, I think that it catches most of us by surprise.
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Message 55460 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 19:18:32 UTC - in response to Message 55459.  

When it does, I think that it catches most of us by surprise.

Yes indeed, since the new server status page does not show real time data micromanagement of tasks is not possible (for good or not). Nowadays I can't catch anything. What is funny though that there are thousands of tasks in progress for many months to come. I guess the question for shorter deadlines becomes relevant again.
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Message 55461 - Posted: 9 Jan 2017, 20:21:48 UTC - in response to Message 55460.  

I guess the question for shorter deadlines becomes relevant again.


I have always wondered how many of those “tasks in progress” (presently 91260) are in reality abandoned or lost in a way the server never found out about. Eleven month deadlines do tend to lead to a large buildup of tasks that are never going to be finished. Maybe the project needs to fix it so any task that has not trickled in the last 90 days (or maybe even 60 days) is declared abandoned and reissued.
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Message 55462 - Posted: 10 Jan 2017, 14:20:19 UTC

The deadline length doesn't reflect CPDN's timescale for using the results but is intended, as I understand it, to prevent CPDN hogging the processing for users who are members of multiple projects - given that CPDN models are relatively long.
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