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Send message Joined: 28 Jul 19 Posts: 150 Credit: 12,830,559 RAC: 228 |
The scale we currently use. If you lived back when the earth was flat, going right round would seem equally insane.Same way as electron holes in semiconductors, antimatter, etc, etc. Just because we haven't discovered it yet doesn't mean it doesn't exist.You have'n' a clue about the subject matter, have you?I have an honours degree in Physics, so yes I do. I also have a sense of humour and an open mind. So explain how it is physically possible to have a pressure lower than that of an absolute vacuum or a temperature lower than absolute zero. Back when the Earth was flat ignorance was rife, nowadays we actually understand physics and can set the scales appropriately. |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
Getting way off topic. |
Send message Joined: 28 Jul 19 Posts: 150 Credit: 12,830,559 RAC: 228 |
Getting way off topic. With apologies, I shall withdraw from the conversation. |
Send message Joined: 9 Oct 20 Posts: 690 Credit: 4,391,754 RAC: 6,918 |
Getting way off topic. Pressure is off topic for a project about climate? [facepalm] |
Send message Joined: 9 Oct 20 Posts: 690 Credit: 4,391,754 RAC: 6,918 |
So explain how it is physically possible to have a pressure lower than that of an absolute vacuum or a temperature lower than absolute zero. No, we understand more. There will be things we still yet don't know. To assume we know everything is arrogant. |
Send message Joined: 16 Jan 10 Posts: 1084 Credit: 7,884,168 RAC: 4,723 |
[Peter Hucker wrote:]Getting way off topic. The title of this particular topic is "new work discussion". Batches of new work do sometimes produce errors if the parameter boundaries are being pushed and it might be appropriate to discuss those as errors. There are people here who know more than might be expected about the science of climate but most of us don't, so such a discussion might be better located in a separate thread since people concerned about new work will learn little about new work and may indeed find the information they do want obscured. The "invalid theta" error, if I remember correctly, relates to a variable called "potential temperature". There's a helpful Wikipedia article at Potential temperature. |
Send message Joined: 15 May 09 Posts: 4541 Credit: 19,039,635 RAC: 18,944 |
Overnight, another hadcm3 crashed with invalid theta so two out of 14 I have had in this batch. Sadly I can't see if these tasks will do the same on other computers as the other attempts have crashed right at the start, one missing libraries and the other a Mac with a failed process creation message. |
Send message Joined: 1 Jan 07 Posts: 1061 Credit: 36,748,059 RAC: 5,647 |
And another one to report - task 22025705. Error message is NEGATIVE PRESSURE VALUE CREATED tmp/pipe_dummy, with the final part hidden off the edge of the screen. Yes, I know that a negative atmospheric pressure is a physical impossibility, and that simply proves that the climate pattern being modelled isn't going to happen in reality. Strike those initial parameters from the list of possibles. Talking of new work - that particular workunit was created on 26 Sep 2019, but the initial task (created the same day) is marked 'didn't need'. ? |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
That batch is something about: Optimisation_2060_spectral_runs Failure is 71% Hard fails (all the re-runs) is 2% There's still 1754 running With 866 (12%) unsent So, interesting all round. |
Send message Joined: 15 May 09 Posts: 4541 Credit: 19,039,635 RAC: 18,944 |
And another one to report - task 22025705. Error message is I noticed that on my two failures as well Richard. |
Send message Joined: 15 May 09 Posts: 4541 Credit: 19,039,635 RAC: 18,944 |
And apart from any resends, by tomorrow morning it looks like all the hadcm3 work will be gone. |
Send message Joined: 15 May 09 Posts: 4541 Credit: 19,039,635 RAC: 18,944 |
For reference, on my Ryzen7 in testing the HADSM4 tasks took a tad under 55 hours to complete. No particular problems noted but as always with a new model type if you do spot anything strange let us know and we can pass it on to the project. |
Send message Joined: 22 Jul 18 Posts: 1 Credit: 1,695,658 RAC: 296 |
Hi Les.... Damn, I haven't gotten any tasks in a Martian year, maybe a Saturnian year. How can I get some jobs? There are jobs available on the server. Sending this from my present location: Ballooning over Greenland watching the glaciers melt. Thanks in advance |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 04 Posts: 7629 Credit: 24,240,330 RAC: 0 |
There were 3 research groups doing some work that used a Windows based climate program. They all "disappeared" early last year. Those that are still active, are doing a different type of research, and these programs are written for Linux. So, all of the work on the site is Linux. Although, now and then, someone is sending us some work that also runs on Macs There's a few of these at the moment. And the thing to keep in mind is, that all of this BOINC stuff is NOT part of their normal work; it's something additional that they've learned about from conferences, and are trying. Finances and servers and net access permitting. |
Send message Joined: 9 Dec 05 Posts: 116 Credit: 12,547,934 RAC: 2,738 |
Hi Les.... Damn, I haven't gotten any tasks in a Martian year, maybe a Saturnian year. How can I get some jobs? There are jobs available on the server. The current work is for Linux only. |
Send message Joined: 31 Aug 04 Posts: 29 Credit: 3,971,150 RAC: 884 |
Really? I've got a WU running on Win10 right now Tho I will admit it's the first in a very long time |
Send message Joined: 5 Aug 04 Posts: 1120 Credit: 17,202,915 RAC: 2,154 |
I got one a while ago. I believe it is called a re-run. Workunit 12033489 name wah2_sam50_a0dd_201312_25_880_012033489 application Weather At Home 2 (wah2) created 2 Nov 2020, 11:45:41 UTC canonical result 21988408 granted credit 0.00 minimum quorum 1 initial replication 1 max # of error/total/success tasks 3, 2, 1 Task Computer Sent Time reported or deadline Status Run time (sec) CPU time (sec) Credit Application 21988408 1512658 26 Dec 2020, 7:27:20 UTC 1 Jan 2021, 7:35:21 UTC Completed 514,851.38 510,503.00 19,018.14 Weather At Home 2 (wah2) v8.24 windows_intelx86 21959016 1190093 2 Nov 2020, 11:59:28 UTC 26 Dec 2020, 7:27:11 UTC Error while computing 45,421.24 43,275.98 --- Weather At Home 2 (wah2) v8.24 windows_intelx86 |
Send message Joined: 15 May 09 Posts: 4541 Credit: 19,039,635 RAC: 18,944 |
#907 being re-sent now. |
Send message Joined: 6 Oct 06 Posts: 204 Credit: 7,608,986 RAC: 0 |
I found my laptops had switched on their turbo-props. The Taskmanager going haywire. The temperatures in cloud nine. Checked the Task Manager, I had fifteen WU's running on a twelve thread machine. Switched of Virtual Box, still twelve tasks? Opened up Boinc Manager and I found twenty-three Windows WU"s. Managed to mark project "No further tasks" just in time. Well, I suspended the Windows Tasks because the task in my VB is at 92% and has already errored out several times. Stuck. My VB's have tasks. I would like to know what others are going to do. I cannot be the only one. |
Send message Joined: 5 Aug 04 Posts: 1120 Credit: 17,202,915 RAC: 2,154 |
My little Windows10 box, that normally has nothing else to do since income tax season is over, just downloaded 5 tasks. I do not run virtual box, just the straight OS. This is one of the tasks I have on that machine. wah2_eu25_s05o_209112_13_913_012094589_0 The Boinc client is running four of them, and three Rosetta tasks. I do not know if my machine will even do TurboProps. Computer 1512658 CPU type GenuineIntel 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz [Family 6 Model 140 Stepping 1] Number of processors 8 Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Core x64 Edition, (10.00.19043.00) BOINC version 7.16.11 Memory 15.64 GB Cache 256 KB |
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