climateprediction.net home page
No work for Windows?

No work for Windows?

Message boards : Number crunching : No work for Windows?
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · Next

AuthorMessage
Les Bayliss
Volunteer moderator

Send message
Joined: 5 Sep 04
Posts: 7629
Credit: 24,240,330
RAC: 0
Message 52806 - Posted: 7 Nov 2015, 18:23:24 UTC - in response to Message 52805.  

Windows and Mac crunchers are just going to have to be patient until the people from those projects need more data for whatever they're researching. Then they'll start submitting a big batch of data sets directly to the server download queues.

And there has been testing for new models/areas over the same several weeks. When the bugs in those get fixed, they'll increase the likely hood of more work.

ID: 52806 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile JIM

Send message
Joined: 31 Dec 07
Posts: 1152
Credit: 22,053,321
RAC: 4,417
Message 52809 - Posted: 8 Nov 2015, 1:09:10 UTC - in response to Message 52806.  

[And there has been testing for new models/areas over the same several weeks. When the bugs in those get fixed, they'll increase the likely hood of more work.

[/quote]

Where has this testing been going on? The CPDN beta site is still DOA. Are these private Alpha tests?

ID: 52809 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Les Bayliss
Volunteer moderator

Send message
Joined: 5 Sep 04
Posts: 7629
Credit: 24,240,330
RAC: 0
Message 52811 - Posted: 8 Nov 2015, 2:28:21 UTC - in response to Message 52809.  

Beta. By moderators.

ID: 52811 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
wateroakley

Send message
Joined: 6 Aug 04
Posts: 185
Credit: 27,083,655
RAC: 6,161
Message 52820 - Posted: 9 Nov 2015, 12:20:34 UTC - in response to Message 52811.  

The work laptop suffered another hard drive failure earlier this year. Unfortunately, I have given up on re-loading cpdn due to a clamp-down on the use of non-business software since the replacement hard drive was re-imaged. That's the new rules from CIO, so 'cease and desist' is the order of the day.

The home cpdn host will sit patiently until new work becomes available. It's picked up a few days of Einstein to keep the host usefully occupied ...
ID: 52820 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Dave Jackson
Volunteer moderator

Send message
Joined: 15 May 09
Posts: 4314
Credit: 16,376,846
RAC: 3,590
Message 52821 - Posted: 9 Nov 2015, 12:22:20 UTC - in response to Message 52820.  

There is I am told lots of Windows work in the pipeline awaiting all services being restored after the recent planned outage.
ID: 52821 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile JIM

Send message
Joined: 31 Dec 07
Posts: 1152
Credit: 22,053,321
RAC: 4,417
Message 52825 - Posted: 9 Nov 2015, 19:26:26 UTC

Any idea when all the services will be back up.
[/quote]
ID: 52825 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Les Bayliss
Volunteer moderator

Send message
Joined: 5 Sep 04
Posts: 7629
Credit: 24,240,330
RAC: 0
Message 52826 - Posted: 9 Nov 2015, 19:45:36 UTC - in response to Message 52825.  

There's a series of short children's programs from the UK called Pepper Pig.
In one of them, the family is on their way to the playground, when they come across Mr Bull and his team, who are digging up the road to replace a broken pipe.
When Pepper asks him how long it will take, he replies:
"It will take as long as it takes."

In regard to when the services here will all be restored, the answer is:
"It will take as long as it takes."

:)

ID: 52826 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Chris

Send message
Joined: 9 Apr 12
Posts: 10
Credit: 2,700,404
RAC: 0
Message 52848 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 4:51:01 UTC

I see why tasks are Windows or linux, but what makes a task Window or Linux only?

I mean there have been a lot of Windows "outages." Are there corresponding Linux droughts that I'm just not seeing (because I am not looking for those)?

Or are the bigger projects preferentially doing Linux for some reason?
ID: 52848 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Les Bayliss
Volunteer moderator

Send message
Joined: 5 Sep 04
Posts: 7629
Credit: 24,240,330
RAC: 0
Message 52849 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 5:20:02 UTC - in response to Message 52848.  

Hello Chris

I think that the matter of which model type for which OS was an arbitrary one, decided at some level in the OeRC group.
And it was at a time when there was still plenty of work for all OSs.

The current dearth is due to no work being sort from the external-to-Oxford research groups recently, due to the extended project down time.
This is expected to change before too much longer.
And as mentioned in a thread somewhere a few weeks back, it appears that the soon to start new projects will be Windows only. Not sure about for the Mac, but there are less of them than there are Linux machines.

The large number of Linux apps available, is due to the lesser number of Linux machines, and the lack of work for Windows is due to the huge number of Windows machines, which can grab a batch of 10,000-20,000 in a few days. I've thought of a similarly there, but I'll refrain. :)


ID: 52849 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Dave Jackson
Volunteer moderator

Send message
Joined: 15 May 09
Posts: 4314
Credit: 16,376,846
RAC: 3,590
Message 52850 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 8:49:56 UTC - in response to Message 52849.  

And just for the record, there have been times when there have been long breaks in the supply of work for penguin powered machines.
ID: 52850 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Dave Jackson
Volunteer moderator

Send message
Joined: 15 May 09
Posts: 4314
Credit: 16,376,846
RAC: 3,590
Message 52851 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 14:33:00 UTC

I suspect this will also appear in the news and announcements thread.
Due to the beta site being down some test work units are going to be released here and this may result in a higher failure rate. They aren't there yet at least according to the server status page but at least we know they are on the way.

I still have a couple of beta site tasks running and zip files for completed tasks to send there so probably won't pick up any of them myself. Don't know what platforms they are going to be released for.
ID: 52851 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Alan K

Send message
Joined: 22 Feb 06
Posts: 484
Credit: 29,579,234
RAC: 4,572
Message 52852 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 14:47:23 UTC - in response to Message 52851.  

I've just picked up about a dozen of these. They are AFR models. I also had some short repeats that had failed on other machines. These have completed OK.
ID: 52852 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Dave Jackson
Volunteer moderator

Send message
Joined: 15 May 09
Posts: 4314
Credit: 16,376,846
RAC: 3,590
Message 52853 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 16:16:57 UTC - in response to Message 52852.  

Great that these haven't gone to a set and forget cruncher! Any feedback re actual time as opposed to estimated time, size of zip files etc will I am sure be welcomed by the team at Oxford.
ID: 52853 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Professor Desty Nova
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 19 Sep 04
Posts: 92
Credit: 1,926,211
RAC: 254
Message 52854 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 16:23:15 UTC

Also picked one AFR generated today. This week I also picked and finished some "Shorts" that were abandoned by other people :-)


Professor Desty Nova
Researching Karma the Hard Way
ID: 52854 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Dave Jackson
Volunteer moderator

Send message
Joined: 15 May 09
Posts: 4314
Credit: 16,376,846
RAC: 3,590
Message 52855 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 17:40:41 UTC - in response to Message 52854.  
Last modified: 13 Nov 2015, 17:42:07 UTC

While I know these testing units are comming, what I can't tell is whether these AFR tasks are part of that or are part of an ordinary release that are getting snapped up as quickly as they appear.

I also see that server status is showing 1,000 eu tasks at the moment so some of those waiting at least will see some work soon!
ID: 52855 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
ed2353

Send message
Joined: 15 Feb 06
Posts: 137
Credit: 33,347,857
RAC: 0
Message 52856 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 18:05:44 UTC - in response to Message 52855.  

Unfortunately the EU tasks are suffering download failures for my computer.
ID: 52856 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Dave Jackson
Volunteer moderator

Send message
Joined: 15 May 09
Posts: 4314
Credit: 16,376,846
RAC: 3,590
Message 52857 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 18:24:45 UTC - in response to Message 52856.  

And it isMonday. If anyone else is getting the same thing, I will post it to the moderators list before Monday morning.
ID: 52857 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Les Bayliss
Volunteer moderator

Send message
Joined: 5 Sep 04
Posts: 7629
Credit: 24,240,330
RAC: 0
Message 52858 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 18:34:55 UTC - in response to Message 52856.  

Welcome to the world of beta testing Ed. :)

What was the specific failure?
e.g. I've just had some checksum failures on the Linux stuff.

When I first looked, there was a bit over 2.5 thousand of them. There's now 2.6+ thousand, so the batch is being loaded even as we post.

ID: 52858 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
WB8ILI

Send message
Joined: 1 Sep 04
Posts: 161
Credit: 81,421,805
RAC: 1,225
Message 52859 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 18:54:29 UTC
Last modified: 13 Nov 2015, 19:09:40 UTC

Les -

This is a sample of the error messages. All downloads failed on 5 different Windows computers

11/13/2015 1:35:20 PM | climateprediction.net | Giving up on download of ozone_rcp45_N96_2009_2020v2.gz: permanent HTTP error
11/13/2015 1:35:20 PM | climateprediction.net | Started download of ic19610902_11_N96.gz
11/13/2015 1:35:21 PM | climateprediction.net | Giving up on download of ic19610902_11_N96.gz: permanent HTTP error
11/13/2015 1:35:21 PM | climateprediction.net | Started download of atmos_z4ha.day.gz
11/13/2015 1:35:22 PM | climateprediction.net | Giving up on download of atmos_z4ha.day.gz: permanent HTTP error
11/13/2015 1:35:22 PM | climateprediction.net | Started download of so2dms_rcp45_N96_2009_2020.gz
11/13/2015 1:35:23 PM | climateprediction.net | Giving up on download of so2dms_rcp45_N96_2009_2020.gz: permanent HTTP error
11/13/2015 1:35:23 PM | climateprediction.net | Started download of region_z4ha.day.gz
11/13/2015 1:35:24 PM | climateprediction.net | Giving up on download of region_z4ha.day.gz: permanent HTTP error
11/13/2015 1:35:24 PM | climateprediction.net | Started download of final_OSTIA_ice_201412_201511_ancil.gz
11/13/2015 1:35:26 PM | climateprediction.net | Giving up on download of final_OSTIA_ice_201412_201511_ancil.gz: permanent HTTP error
11/13/2015 1:35:26 PM | climateprediction.net | Started download of final_OSTIA_sst_201412_201511_ancil.gz
ID: 52859 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Les Bayliss
Volunteer moderator

Send message
Joined: 5 Sep 04
Posts: 7629
Credit: 24,240,330
RAC: 0
Message 52860 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 19:12:18 UTC - in response to Message 52859.  
Last modified: 13 Nov 2015, 19:24:44 UTC

OK, thanks.
I'll pass on a message.
ID: 52860 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Previous · 1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · Next

Message boards : Number crunching : No work for Windows?

©2024 climateprediction.net