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Message 48092 - Posted: 4 Feb 2014, 19:02:47 UTC

Getting error popup on Windows 8.1:

Begin popup
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Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library
Runtime Error!

Program: D:\Boinc\projects...

This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an
unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.

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End popup

climateprediction is the only project I'm running.
Boinc version 7.2.33(x64)
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Message 48095 - Posted: 4 Feb 2014, 21:13:54 UTC - in response to Message 48092.  

Hi James

Once this message pops up 6 times the model will abort. (Although I think that it may be 6 times in a row.)
While it does say to contact the support team, it's a message built-in to the compiler, and there's not much that can be done about the runnable application if it shows up.

One of your current models (hadcm3n_7a7d_1980_40_008424508), needs to be aborted.

See the 2 most recent posts here in News and Announcements, which is at the top of the Number crunching section.

News and Announcements should be subscribed to, so that you get an email message whenever there's a new post there.

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Message 48261 - Posted: 3 Mar 2014, 19:59:06 UTC
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Several of my colleagues have reported the same Runtime error message. They uninstalled BOINC. It was the only way to stop the error message from popping up repeatedly (every 10-15 minutes). It did not stop after 6 times.

I also don't see anything related to this problem on the News and Announcements link you suggested.
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Message 48262 - Posted: 3 Mar 2014, 20:59:10 UTC - in response to Message 48261.  

The C++ runtime popup is a cpdn problem.
As such, a "drastic" cure is to disconnect from cpdn, NOT to uninstall BOINC.

If it didn't cure itself, then that's just a random event most likely related to the computer involved, it's installed software, what was running at the time, the particular dataset that was trying to run, the operating system, and possibly other things as well.

It's a problem that's been cropping up for a couple years, and no definitive answer or cure has been found in all of that time.
All that can be done is to offer sympathies, and hopes that the next one will work OK.

Work has been done on the climate model that is used, so perhaps it won't happen again, when new batches using that application become available.
However, re-issues of old datasets do pop up in the work queue now and then, and computers do pick them up, so it may depend on just how unlucky you are.

As for looking in the News thread for something about this, that part of my previous post here, was about the second of James's problems, one that he didn't post about.


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Message 48267 - Posted: 4 Mar 2014, 7:42:59 UTC - in response to Message 48262.  

It's a problem that's been cropping up for a couple years, and no definitive answer or cure has been found in all of that time.
All that can be done is to offer sympathies, and hopes that the next one will work OK.

Atleast my experience (under windows) is if you installs BOINC as a service it means the popup-message can't be shown, so the model will just silently crash-out on it's own.

The disadvantage is you can't install BOINC as a service if you're also doing GPU-crunching.

So for anyone not doing GPU-crunching, installing as a service won't fix some CPDN-models crapping-out, but it should atleast happen without the spamming popup-messages.



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Message 48276 - Posted: 4 Mar 2014, 14:53:55 UTC - in response to Message 48262.  

Thank you! This was helpful.
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Message 48319 - Posted: 7 Mar 2014, 1:24:50 UTC

If you run BOINC on a "headless cruncher", you could consider to disable Windows Error Reporting (completely, i.e. including critical errors!).

This setting is system-wide so it isn't recommended for your work computers, but for a box used only for crunching, the advantage is, that the cores/tasks aren't blocked anymore until someone confirms the message.
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