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Message 45238 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 19:44:48 UTC - in response to Message 45237.  

That makes sense reading what you are saying, however, my clock just did a normal change to the time...this is a new computer as of this year so its not like the battery is bad so what you suggested isn't likely...but I suppose anything is possible.

Anyway, I did get a new task today so am pleased to be crunching a job once more!
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Message 45239 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 21:50:15 UTC

It now has been a month of "Project has no tasks available." I really find that hard to believe. Is there something I should do? I've reset the project probably a dozen times, but that has not led to any new task.
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Message 45240 - Posted: 9 Nov 2012, 22:44:06 UTC - in response to Message 45239.  

The reason that you're getting that message is because there ARE no tasks available.
The project people have been fixing a series of problems before releasing more work. And this is likely to continue for a while yet.

And repeating: The page for the Server Status is linked in the blue menu to the left, 5 from the bottom.


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Message 45241 - Posted: 10 Nov 2012, 0:21:40 UTC - in response to Message 45240.  

OK, I'll be patient. Thanks.
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Message 45242 - Posted: 10 Nov 2012, 14:12:17 UTC


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Message 45244 - Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 8:06:23 UTC - in response to Message 45242.  

It does put problems this side of the pond in perspective Jim! Hope the power is back soon. Longest I have ever been without power over here is a couple of days. And if that happens now, I have a woodstove that will heat one room and the hot water, with some gain for the rest of the house. I can understand why a friend in rural Scotland who gets rather more frequent and longer outages than Cambridge has his solar system set up so he has several hours of battery at night if the mains goes off. OUr Solar is grid linked and stops working if the power goes out. Not that it has for more than half an hour since we had it installed a year ago.
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Message 45247 - Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 20:05:24 UTC

Good luck, JIM!
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Message 45248 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 3:46:39 UTC

greetings and also best wishes from hamburg Jim,

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Message 45249 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 14:26:40 UTC - in response to Message 45211.  
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Message 45256 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 19:24:30 UTC - in response to Message 45249.  
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The reason is in my previous post in this thread:
The project people have been fixing a series of problems before releasing more work. And this is likely to continue for a while yet.

No details are likely to be made available.

This board is the standard BOINC message board. The other board is the original one from before BOINC was released. It was originally hosted for many years at the Open University in Milton Keynes.

It's handy to have two for when the server with the other board is down, so that messages can still still be posted.

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And now I've just posted another hint here.
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Message 45258 - Posted: 13 Nov 2012, 22:24:58 UTC

I'm getting frustrated. I haven't gotten any WUs for a while now. The last dozen or more that I did get either crashed or hung on download so I can understand being dropped to the back of the line.
But since then I have changed from a 2 CPU board to a 4 CPU board with faster CPUs and really want to see if this will make processing these weather projects faster. But without any work to do I can't find out. Before with only 2 CPUs I would have to suspend processing on the Weather project in order to process my other BOINC projects and still have a CPU to do my work on. Now with 4 CPUs I can dedicate one to processing weather data, 2 for other BOINC projects as well as a third project that can operate on my GRU board and still have one for my own work. But I need to have something to process and with no WUs to work on I will never find out if my new configuration is of use to the weather project or not. So right now I am processing 3 BOINC projects on my CPUs, one on my GRU and a 5th project on my 4th CPU when I am not using it to do my own work yet have no weather WUs to process to see if they will work and if so how fast they can process weather WUs. My previous 2 CPU computer configuration had trouble getting the work done quickly enough. Though I have processed 133,000 units of work for the weather applications it has been stuck there for several months now. Meanwhile my SETI credits have gone from 135,000 units of work when I changed my configuration to over 227,000 in just a couple of months. While it is nice to contribute to SETI, it would be better to contribute more to the weather applications since they have more immediate impact upon how we live on this earth right now just as my contributions to World Community Grid have soared with my new configuration to over 88,750 which is primarily concentrated on Childhood Cancer studies.
Is there something I can do to get back into the good graces of the Weather projects after the dozen or more straight failures I suffered with my previous configuration? If so, what?

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Message 45259 - Posted: 13 Nov 2012, 22:55:23 UTC

We all wait. Other projects benefit, in my case it is malariacontrol.net, although this projects does not give as many credits and does not run so hassle free than climateprediction.net.
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Message 45260 - Posted: 14 Nov 2012, 1:50:11 UTC - in response to Message 45258.  

Chi

I have to assume that you haven't read any of this thread, in particular those posts that say there's no work available at present, hasn't been for some time, and won't be for some time to come.

As for your new computer, the few models that made it through to your computer have also failed. (Apart from one that was aborted.)
This is a problem with your computer, as it is with your other computers.
You'll have to look in the stderr list on the page for each model to find the error message. (Click on the + symbol to expand the list.)

As for "back of the line", there's just under 36,000 computers after work, and only around 5,000 to 10,000 WUs released at a time, so good luck with getting any when they do start to show up again.


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Message 45264 - Posted: 16 Nov 2012, 2:01:47 UTC

I got a work unit earlier this week, but is seems to have an extraordinarily long time frame, currently it is st 22% with an estimated time remaining left of 402 hours and 15 mins to go. Is this correct or has something gone wrong? Screenshot below


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Message 45265 - Posted: 16 Nov 2012, 2:11:38 UTC - in response to Message 45264.  

Nothing wrong, it's a Coupled Ocean model.
These can take around 3 weeks on a fast computer running 24/7, with no other projects on it.

And they're very touchy about being interrupted. It's possible that there's several reasons for this. Some of us don't turn off the computer or interrupt them in any other way until they finish. :(


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Message 45266 - Posted: 16 Nov 2012, 4:10:05 UTC

All facts correct Mr. Les Bayliss,

but seriously, on a fast computer, less than 10 days ;-)).

God bless you all,


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Message 45267 - Posted: 16 Nov 2012, 4:31:00 UTC - in response to Message 45266.  

My records show that earlier in the year, my 2 Q6600 (2.4Ghz) computers were taking around 500-550 hours for these model types, depending on the parameters used.


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Message 45268 - Posted: 16 Nov 2012, 8:37:24 UTC - in response to Message 45267.  

Just make sure that if you have an atom based netbook you deselect this model type for it!
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Message 45269 - Posted: 16 Nov 2012, 11:50:59 UTC

Thanks for the quick replies. I do have my computer on 24/7 but am also running several other projects like Seti which I started in 1999 (only because I thought the moon would be leaving its orbit from earth)

System is an AMD 8 core 3.1ghz, so I'll just let it do its thing and try not to make it angry at me by interrupting it too much.
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Message 45270 - Posted: 16 Nov 2012, 18:55:27 UTC
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Interruptions can also come from boinc suspending all active tasks to run CPU benchmarks or suspending individual tasks to balance Resource Share as defined by the participant. If that happens for a HadCM3N task when running restart dumps at 25%/50%/75%/100% ...
[EDIT: In some cases boinc waits for a checkpoint to stop a task bit I'm not sure that's universal or about timing of processes between main processing and generation of HadCM3N restart dumps.]
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