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Message 44404 - Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 10:15:02 UTC

Chaps

Since the hooha about uploading files to the server I have had nothing to work on for the past 2-3 days.

climateprediction.net Message from server: Project has no tasks available

1) Is this happening to everyone else?
2) Anyone know when more models will be available for download?

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Message 44405 - Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 10:34:30 UTC

I too have had no work for a while ...

Fri 15 Jun 2012 11:25:25 BST climateprediction.net Message from server: Project has no tasks available


But the servers are all showing 'no problem' ...

Help?

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Message 44406 - Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 11:31:18 UTC - in response to Message 44405.  

As the server status page shows, there are no tasks available. Well, actually there have been some today but they have been snapped up by whichever machines put in the request in the short window before they are all gone again. I am afraid those of us who don't have the luck to be sending the request at the right time will have to wait till a fresh batch of tasks is released.
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Message 44407 - Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 11:53:31 UTC - in response to Message 44406.  

Lately -- the last few months anyhow -- when the project releases new work (aside from retries) it's been in big batches of several tens of thousand at a time. When that may happen again -- who knows -- but it probably will happen fairly soon.
Meantime I accept work from other projects that have real short turnaround.
CPDN is the one project I focus my computing resources on whenever work is available.
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Message 44408 - Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 12:00:56 UTC

This project doesn't always have work.

When one of the four groups of researchers decide what they want to do next, they contact the project people, and give them the information that's needed to create a new batch of work units.

However, the Southern Africa group, based in South Africa, haven't been running models for a while, so they may have finished. Or not. :)

So, everyone just has to wait until more work is available. And then there'll be 35,000 plus computers after it.


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Message 44409 - Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 12:02:45 UTC

Andrew

Your computer has crashed every work unit sent to it.
Perhaps you should use this lull to find out why.


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Message 44413 - Posted: 15 Jun 2012, 21:55:33 UTC

Thanks for the feedback guys :)
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Message 44420 - Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 13:42:34 UTC

Interesting, there seem to be a fair number of tasks being released, I have just got one. - I had expected to be down to using one core but now one core has a pnw while the other is slowly making it's way through a full ocean model.
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Message 44421 - Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 15:13:46 UTC - in response to Message 44420.  

In fact, 4 tasks downloaded including an saf, though this is probably a re-issue.
The number of tasks in progress seems to be going up or at least not changing very much which implies other tasks are going out and anyone who is patient will grab one/some of these tasks if they are patient.
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Message 44429 - Posted: 18 Jun 2012, 15:00:46 UTC

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Message 44430 - Posted: 18 Jun 2012, 15:02:13 UTC - in response to Message 44429.  

And I guess the ration will get worse till a new batch is issued.
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Message 44431 - Posted: 18 Jun 2012, 21:53:41 UTC

You can tell if a model is an original or a reissue by the name.
On an original, the last number is a zero.

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Message 44432 - Posted: 18 Jun 2012, 22:33:24 UTC

Still all out, had to reconfigure my systems to other projects yet. :-(
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Message 44436 - Posted: 20 Jun 2012, 3:44:32 UTC - in response to Message 44432.  

Still all out, had to reconfigure my systems to other projects yet. :-(

Hi, Desti,
Me, too. However, we must keep in mind that the different science teams require time to evaluate results (would we have it any other way?) before releasing the next set. These chopped-up tasks are a far different management problem than when we ran entire models; of course, as you know, they required months at 24/7 and some peoples' whining/whinging resulted in the operation we have today -- including its large up- and down-loads.

We must also remember that our two support staff were thrown into the deep end of a very complex years-old project and have not yet developed miraculous instantaneous turnaround skills.

And, should we mention all the firefighting required by the wondrous server system? That, too, will require time and money to rectify. Meanwhile, brute force ...

I'm reminded me of an old saw, from decades ago: The difficult we do right away; the impossible takes a bit longer.

"We have met the enemy and he is us." -- Pogo
Greetings from coastal Washington state, the scenic US Pacific Northwest.
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Message 44438 - Posted: 20 Jun 2012, 7:39:38 UTC

For the miracles we have to equip ourselves (so in Italy goes the saying).
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Message 44441 - Posted: 20 Jun 2012, 21:33:56 UTC

At least I grabbed some of the spare WU's to feed my processors.
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Message 44442 - Posted: 21 Jun 2012, 7:29:39 UTC - in response to Message 44441.  

Looks like there is a batch of pnw tasks released - they keep appearing in small numbers on the server status page and number of tasks in progress has gone up by about 3K

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Message 44443 - Posted: 23 Jun 2012, 11:18:09 UTC - in response to Message 44442.  

Looks like a few thousand PNW - just been growing and growing - probably re-issues. But anyhow plenty work for now
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Message 44444 - Posted: 23 Jun 2012, 15:01:26 UTC - in response to Message 44443.  

The 6 that I'm working on are new.


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Message 44445 - Posted: 23 Jun 2012, 15:06:17 UTC

I'm getting a few hadam3p_pnw new tasks that fail to download with the message "file not found".

Anyone else with this problem?

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