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Message 41412 - Posted: 1 Jan 2011, 4:34:44 UTC

I noticed that about a month ago the Host Total of This Host had dropped by a large amount.

I have waited to see if the totals sort themselves out but alas they have not.

The Total should be about 464,804.47 cobblestones, however it is showing 290,612.84 cobblestones (290,613 after rounding).
Now this lower total happens to be the total of all displayed model results on my account page for this host.
All archived results after being removed from my account page took their credits with them.

My overall total appears OK and my other computer host also appears OK.

If this discrepancy can be corrected It would be much appreciated thanks.

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Message 41485 - Posted: 15 Jan 2011, 0:38:17 UTC - in response to Message 41412.  

I noticed that about a month ago the Host Total of This Host had dropped by a large amount.

I have waited to see if the totals sort themselves out but alas they have not.

The Total should be about 464,804.47 cobblestones, however it is showing 290,612.84 cobblestones (290,613 after rounding).
Now this lower total happens to be the total of all displayed model results on my account page for this host.
All archived results after being removed from my account page took their credits with them.

My overall total appears OK and my other computer host also appears OK.

If this discrepancy can be corrected It would be much appreciated thanks.

Conan

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Have done a recalculation and of the total of 1,086,351 one host has 594,397 credits and the one with the problem has 290,613 credits.

Added together this is 885,010 credits.

So 594,397 plus 290,613 = 885,010

1,086,351 minus 885,010 = 201,341 credits missing from host total.

290,613 + 201,341 = 491,954 credits This should be my hosts total.

So Host 1 has 594,397 credits
and Host 2 should have 491,954 credits.

I only have the two hosts connected to this project so it is easy to see the missing credits on my hosts totals.

Unsure if others are having a missing credit issue.

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Message 41487 - Posted: 15 Jan 2011, 19:04:06 UTC

Well, as has been posted elsewhere, there's no programmers here at the moment, and their replacements won't arrive for another few weeks.
And when they do, they have a lot of work to do that will probably be considered far more important then fiddling with credits.
So it could be six months or more before it's fixed.


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Message 41511 - Posted: 19 Jan 2011, 23:20:29 UTC - in response to Message 41487.  

Well, as has been posted elsewhere, there's no programmers here at the moment, and their replacements won't arrive for another few weeks.
And when they do, they have a lot of work to do that will probably be considered far more important then fiddling with credits.
So it could be six months or more before it's fixed.



OK Les, understood that we currently have no programmers (although I had not a post about this and had not associated my missing credits with missing programmers, perhaps they took them?)

Also understood that the new programmers will have a lot of work to do and whilst both you and probably them will consider fiddling with my missing credits as paltry and minor, to me it is a different matter.

I was not insisting that it be done here and now, I was just curious as to where my credit had gone as it coincided with the archiving of old work units.
And as such would like them back.

I can wait, suppose I have too.

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Message 41746 - Posted: 8 Mar 2011, 20:41:41 UTC

The database, servers, credits, etc should now be working.
If you still have missing credits, then now is the time to mention this, so that the temp admin person can fix it.
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Message 41748 - Posted: 9 Mar 2011, 6:15:48 UTC - in response to Message 41746.  

Hi,
Boinstats shows negative daily credits almost for all participants.
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Message 41776 - Posted: 11 Mar 2011, 15:11:49 UTC - in response to Message 41746.  

hi,
after 9 days I had negative 8.932 credits.
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Message 41834 - Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 11:53:50 UTC - in response to Message 41746.  

The database, servers, credits, etc should now be working.
If you still have missing credits, then now is the time to mention this, so that the temp admin person can fix it.
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I've mentioned this elsewhere, but that was several days ago. I'm missing about 37,000 credits. How is the hunt for missing credits going?
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Message 41849 - Posted: 22 Mar 2011, 2:38:18 UTC

According to BOINCStats my host 1111857 lost 43,969 credits on 8th March. Thyme Lawn reported in the News & Announcements thread that Jonathan was working to fix these problems, and that was about two weeks ago. How's he going?
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Message 41850 - Posted: 22 Mar 2011, 5:50:48 UTC

I'm not sure it's settled law yet but it seems there was some over-credit last time the database was reorged. It might be that, with the current pass into the looking glass, the current numbers are real. We'll see.

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Message 42298 - Posted: 31 May 2011, 13:17:55 UTC - in response to Message 41485.  

I noticed that about a month ago the Host Total of This Host had dropped by a large amount.

I have waited to see if the totals sort themselves out but alas they have not.

The Total should be about 464,804.47 cobblestones, however it is showing 290,612.84 cobblestones (290,613 after rounding).
Now this lower total happens to be the total of all displayed model results on my account page for this host.
All archived results after being removed from my account page took their credits with them.

My overall total appears OK and my other computer host also appears OK.

If this discrepancy can be corrected It would be much appreciated thanks.

Conan

Happy New Year to the CP team.



Have done a recalculation and of the total of 1,086,351 one host has 594,397 credits and the one with the problem has 290,613 credits.

Added together this is 885,010 credits.

So 594,397 plus 290,613 = 885,010

1,086,351 minus 885,010 = 201,341 credits missing from host total.

290,613 + 201,341 = 491,954 credits This should be my hosts total.

So Host 1 has 594,397 credits
and Host 2 should have 491,954 credits.

I only have the two hosts connected to this project so it is easy to see the missing credits on my hosts totals.

Unsure if others are having a missing credit issue.


With all the work that hired programmers did a few months ago, I was wondering if they have had time to check my problem from the original post in this thread?

I had not heard if all is now working or not and as it has been a couple of months I thought I would see how things were going.

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Message 42306 - Posted: 1 Jun 2011, 20:46:19 UTC - in response to Message 42298.  

I did pass on a request to look at your problem, but didn't get a reply.

And with all of the problems for the last month or so, with the project virtually shut down, it's unlikely that any has been done or will be any time soon.


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Message 42761 - Posted: 7 Aug 2011, 9:23:00 UTC - in response to Message 42306.  

I did pass on a request to look at your problem, but didn't get a reply.

And with all of the problems for the last month or so, with the project virtually shut down, it's unlikely that any has been done or will be any time soon.



G'Day Les,

I have given it a couple of months so that things can get sorted out (though it seems that is still ongoing).
So how goes the work on Climates computer server issues?

I was wondering if this small issue now has time to be looked into.

I would like my totals sorted so I know what my computers have contributed. I still plan to process some more models in the near future.

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Message 42773 - Posted: 12 Aug 2011, 7:09:17 UTC - in response to Message 42761.  

I've had a reply, and I've been thinking about it for a couple of days. But I don't understand the figures, and I can't get my credits to add up either.

This is your data:

The archive.stats table says there are 36 entries for a total of 690920.619526058. The entries in the archive for the host you mention are:
    +-----------+------------------+
    |  resultid  |  total_credit  |
    +-----------+------------------+
    |  8400870  | 52254.7200679779 | 
    |  8401264  | 52254.7200679779 | 
    | 10812572 |  2081.77205586433 | 
    +------------+------------------+


The BBCode isn't working. :(
My credits are spread over several defunct parts of cpdn, and I've never kept track of what I've had, so I'm going to have to leave this for someone else to explain.



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Message 42776 - Posted: 14 Aug 2011, 3:45:14 UTC - in response to Message 42773.  
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I've had a reply, and I've been thinking about it for a couple of days. But I don't understand the figures, and I can't get my credits to add up either.

This is your data:

The archive.stats table says there are 36 entries for a total of 690920.619526058. The entries in the archive for the host you mention are:
    +-----------+------------------+
    |  resultid  |  total_credit  |
    +-----------+------------------+
    |  8400870  | 52254.7200679779 | 
    |  8401264  | 52254.7200679779 | 
    | 10812572 |  2081.77205586433 | 
    +------------+------------------+


The BBCode isn't working. :(
My credits are spread over several defunct parts of cpdn, and I've never kept track of what I've had, so I'm going to have to leave this for someone else to explain.




Thanks for the reply Les,

There should be a lot more results in the archive.

Working backwards with a bit of maths that may help

I have 2 hosts on this project Host 852550 and Host 1124050 .

Host 852550 has a total of 594,397 which appears to be correct.
Total viewable WUs on account total 211,409

Host 1124050 shows total viewable WUs of 184,021.

So Total archived for Host 852550 equals 594,397 - 211,409 = 382,988.

Total amount of archived points = 690,921 So 690,921 - 382,988 = 307,933.

This means that 382,988 archived points belong to Host 852550 and 307,933 archived points belong to Host 1124050.

My Total points 1,086,351 minus Archived points of 690,921 = 395,430 points.

My Total viewable WUs for both hosts is 211,409 (host 852550)+ 184,021 (host 1124050) = 395,430 points

So this bit adds up.


Now if you take my Total of 1,086,351 ans subtract the 594,397 points of Host 852550 then you are left with 491,954 points.

491,954 -
307,933 = (archived points total for Host 1124050)
184,021 (which equals the viewable amount of WUs for Host 1124050).

So I Claim that Host 1124050 should have 491,954 points (not 290,613 as displayed).

Les you show 3 WU that total 106,591.21 points from the archive

I have shown that there is 307,933 archived points for Host 1124050.

Subtract 106,591 from 307,933 you get 201,342 (rounded) which is the original amount that I asked to added back onto Host 1124050.

If you subtract displayed total of 290,613 from Actual Total of 491,954 then again you get 201,341.

So HOST 1124050 should have a TOTAL of 491,954 points.

It is Missing 201,342 (rounded) points from its total.

I don't know why you can't see the rest of the archived work units but I know the maths and I know the amount I had before any results were originally archived.

Thanks for your effort in this Les, it is much appreciated.

Hope the maths makes sense

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Message 42777 - Posted: 15 Aug 2011, 7:47:49 UTC - in response to Message 42776.  

A few hours after I made my previous post, I worked out that the table with 3 entries was just a sample to show me how it worked. (And I truncated some bits from the left and right sides before re-posting it here.
I also had another idea, and I've asked for further clarification.


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Message 43552 - Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 10:15:56 UTC - in response to Message 42776.  

I've had a reply, and I've been thinking about it for a couple of days. But I don't understand the figures, and I can't get my credits to add up either.

This is your data:

The archive.stats table says there are 36 entries for a total of 690920.619526058. The entries in the archive for the host you mention are:
    +-----------+------------------+
    |  resultid  |  total_credit  |
    +-----------+------------------+
    |  8400870  | 52254.7200679779 | 
    |  8401264  | 52254.7200679779 | 
    | 10812572 |  2081.77205586433 | 
    +------------+------------------+


The BBCode isn't working. :(
My credits are spread over several defunct parts of cpdn, and I've never kept track of what I've had, so I'm going to have to leave this for someone else to explain.




Thanks for the reply Les,

There should be a lot more results in the archive.

Working backwards with a bit of maths that may help

I have 2 hosts on this project Host 852550 and Host 1124050 .

Host 852550 has a total of 594,397 which appears to be correct.
Total viewable WUs on account total 211,409

Host 1124050 shows total viewable WUs of 184,021.

So Total archived for Host 852550 equals 594,397 - 211,409 = 382,988.

Total amount of archived points = 690,921 So 690,921 - 382,988 = 307,933.

This means that 382,988 archived points belong to Host 852550 and 307,933 archived points belong to Host 1124050.

My Total points 1,086,351 minus Archived points of 690,921 = 395,430 points.

My Total viewable WUs for both hosts is 211,409 (host 852550)+ 184,021 (host 1124050) = 395,430 points

So this bit adds up.


Now if you take my Total of 1,086,351 ans subtract the 594,397 points of Host 852550 then you are left with 491,954 points.

491,954 -
307,933 = (archived points total for Host 1124050)
184,021 (which equals the viewable amount of WUs for Host 1124050).

So I Claim that Host 1124050 should have 491,954 points (not 290,613 as displayed).

Les you show 3 WU that total 106,591.21 points from the archive

I have shown that there is 307,933 archived points for Host 1124050.

Subtract 106,591 from 307,933 you get 201,342 (rounded) which is the original amount that I asked to added back onto Host 1124050.

If you subtract displayed total of 290,613 from Actual Total of 491,954 then again you get 201,341.

So HOST 1124050 should have a TOTAL of 491,954 points.

It is Missing 201,342 (rounded) points from its total.

I don't know why you can't see the rest of the archived work units but I know the maths and I know the amount I had before any results were originally archived.

Thanks for your effort in this Les, it is much appreciated.

Hope the maths makes sense

Conan


G'Day Les,

How are things going now with Climate Prediction?
It has been about 120 days since we last spoke, as I wanted to give the project time to sort out some of it's problems.

Are they sorted out now?
If so has anyone had time to look at my issue?

Thanks
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Message 43556 - Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 22:06:16 UTC - in response to Message 43552.  

The project people were notified at the time of your previous posts, and they looked into it.
I don't know what they did about it, but that decision was and is up to them.


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Message 43577 - Posted: 20 Dec 2011, 11:53:17 UTC - in response to Message 43556.  

Thanks Les,

It would appear then that they decided to not do anything.
In the larger scheme of things my issue has not been considered important and compared to a database crashing I guess it would appear to be not that big a deal.

However it is an issue for me.

I suppose I just like things to be correct and adding up nicely, annoys me when they don't.

Never mind, I will just have to live with it unfortunately.

Thanks Les for helping as much as you have.

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Message 43580 - Posted: 21 Dec 2011, 0:10:34 UTC
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Well it looks like I spoke too soon.
Someone has looked at my problem.
Unfortunately they have made it worse.

The Host I was having the problem of totals with still has that problem, it has not been fixed.
That is Host 1124050, it still shows 290,613 but should have 491,954 credits as its total.

Now Host 852550 which I was having NO trouble with and it had the correct totals, I upgraded the operating system from 32 bit to 64 bit.
This gave me a new Host ID of 1186021.

And with my first Trickle in quite a while my total for this Host has DROPPED from 594,649 to 211,662 (includes a Trickle of 252 credits).

The displayed totals for my two hosts are the totals of my viewable work units for each host, not my overall totals for these hosts (which should include the archived amounts as well).

Can my two hosts please be corrected to the following amounts

HOST 1186021 should have a total of 594,649 cobblestones

HOST 1124050 should have a total of 491,954 cobblestones

If this can be done I will be very happy, you will be happy as I wont be nagging you and we can all enjoy the Christmas/New Year break.

Thanks for you understanding in bring this ongoing issue to an end

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