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Message 40554 - Posted: 2 Sep 2010, 14:19:31 UTC
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Milo, you said: 'Also, the vanished results should be old ones which have already finished.'

But if MacDitch is right about the task and WU numbers for his currently crunching model, it must mean that in at least this case the task page for an uncompleted model has disappeared.

Please see my post above this about an apparent block of missing task (not WU) pages.
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Message 40555 - Posted: 2 Sep 2010, 14:25:03 UTC - in response to Message 40554.  

Milo, you said: 'Also, the vanished results should be old ones which have already finished.'

But if MacDitch is right about the task and WU numbers for his currently crunching model, it must mean that in at least this case the task page for an uncompleted model has disappeared.


Indeed they should be…
I will know more when a backup has been successfully restored.
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Message 40557 - Posted: 2 Sep 2010, 16:52:54 UTC

I lost -48,771 credit on 31th of august on a computer that is not working on this (bureau-1234).

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Message 40558 - Posted: 2 Sep 2010, 17:25:51 UTC

Hello!

I lost -167.419

31/08/2010: 371.509
01/09/2010: 204.089

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Message 40559 - Posted: 2 Sep 2010, 18:00:54 UTC - in response to Message 40554.  

But if MacDitch is right about the task and WU numbers for his currently crunching model, it must mean that in at least this case the task page for an uncompleted model has disappeared.


I actually have two 'active' tasks that have gone missing. The real one is (re-post to confirm numbers!)

Task ID: 7934758
Work Unit ID: 6212331
Computer: 865981
I think it was ~60% complete at the time of the last upload, a week ago.

And the second model is:
Task ID: 7934793
Work Unit ID: 6212336
Computer: 865981

The second model is actually complete (Error@97%)and has uploaded from my computer months ago but showed up in the pending section (until the last few days) despite this.

I don't know if this helps or hinders really...
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Message 40560 - Posted: 2 Sep 2010, 20:10:14 UTC
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Sorry! But I am relieved to see that I am not the only one who lost so much points ...

2010-08-31: 204,755
2010-09-01: 102,786

-101,969

Thanks for working on it.
Good luck!

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Message 40562 - Posted: 2 Sep 2010, 21:17:57 UTC - in response to Message 40526.  


If you look at how long people have been on the project, and compare this with the amount they've lost, it can be seen that the longer, the more lost, as it's all from old results.


I agree. I've lost 88,544 acc. to BOINCstats and this is far more than I have crunched so far in 2010. So this should be from 2009 or even earlier.

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Me too!
I'm set back 7.038.550 credits.
http://nl.boincstats.com/stats/user_graph.php?pr=cpdn&id=146649
That's not recent work!
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Message 40563 - Posted: 2 Sep 2010, 21:30:11 UTC - in response to Message 40463.  
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Thanks Milo. At least this will go down in history as the first time ever for any of my Boinc Manager's Statistics graphs to actually go down.
At least Boinc.Mundayweb's graphics are lying nicely...for now.
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Message 40564 - Posted: 2 Sep 2010, 22:25:46 UTC

A restore is still running - hopefully it will have finished by tomorrow morning and I'll be able to get to work trying to fix the mess.

Apologies again for the huge delays trying to get this data restored.
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Message 40565 - Posted: 2 Sep 2010, 22:29:40 UTC - in response to Message 40564.  

A restore is still running - hopefully it will have finished by tomorrow morning and I'll be able to get to work trying to fix the mess.

Apologies again for the huge delays trying to get this data restored.


Thanks Milo, For your work on this. As an ex-programmer I know what you are up against. Keep up the good work.

What you do today you will have to live with tonight
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Message 40566 - Posted: 2 Sep 2010, 22:34:00 UTC - in response to Message 40463.  

I check progress usually once a day. Since yesterday I seem to have lost about 1.5 million credits. Mind you, I've actually gone up in the participants table from 117 to 110! ID is 7304
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Message 40570 - Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 6:28:47 UTC

BOINCstats currently reports a project total RAC of -41,519,397 - so we're somehow "un-crunching" :

CPDN project totals

I'm not sure if our computers are injecting electricity into the wall plugs though - so it might not be the solution for all energy problems ;-)
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Message 40571 - Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 7:48:27 UTC
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Gots to 'love' a graph entry like this:


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Message 40572 - Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 8:42:37 UTC
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Here's the whole project:


It'll probably be a nice steep valley soon instead of just a cliff ;)

I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Edith says:
I just saw, that some users seem to have dissapeared altogether:

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Message 40573 - Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 8:43:51 UTC - in response to Message 40565.  


Thanks Milo, For your work on this. As an ex-programmer I know what you are up against. Keep up the good work.


Thanks!
Some data are restored but there's a bit of work to do yet.
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Message 40574 - Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 9:05:35 UTC - in response to Message 40570.  

BOINCstats currently reports a project total RAC of -41,519,397 - so we're somehow "un-crunching" :

CPDN project totals

I'm not sure if our computers are injecting electricity into the wall plugs though - so it might not be the solution for all energy problems ;-)


... Does this mean I get a refund from the Electricity Company... Yippeee! :-S

In case it's any help here's a list of WUs which have disappeared (all pre 1st september 2009):

Returned App Ver WU Name Run time Granted
13/05/2009 v6.06 hadam3p_mmo5_1980_2_006061575_1 330.961,40 2.081,77
27/05/2009 v6.06 hadam3p_mydk_1977_2_006076746_0 320.934,70 2.081,77
15/06/2009 v6.06 hadam3p_myyt_1996_2_006077511_1 718.038,50 2.081,77
17/06/2009 v6.06 hadam3p_nb2a_1989_2_006162828_0 322.269,50 2.081,77
25/06/2009 v6.06 hadam3p_mv37_1972_2_006142125_0 317.994,30 2.081,77
03/07/2009 v6.06 hadam3p_mal5_1994_2_006115555_0 317.451,70 2.081,77
16/07/2009 v6.06 hadam3p_mal2_1987_2_006115552_1 331.821,20 2.081,77
26/07/2009 v6.06 hadam3p_n8uq_1964_2_006090324_2 312.595,70 2.081,77
25/08/2009 v6.06 hadam3p_n8ab_1973_2_006089589_4 321.996,10 2.081,77
Total Credits: 18.735,95

Thanks Milo for your work and keeping us informed...
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Message 40577 - Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 15:43:55 UTC
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Maybe it's just too early, but none of my trickles from yesterday or this morning are yet showing here (I've since suspended network activity)

Also, I happened to notice that one of my team-mates, dtkirk, who hasn't been crunching for a while, seems to have lost some 400,000 credits this week! See http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_graph.php?pr=bo&id=579502
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Message 40578 - Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 17:00:39 UTC - in response to Message 40577.  

I'm not doing climateprediction at the moment.

However, the graph from allprojectstats.com shows a negative bar for 'credits per day' on the 1st Sept.

You can see the graph here:

http://allprojectstats.com/perday.php?mode=2&projekt=0&id=1773920

I lost 25% of my total credits between 31 Aug - 1 Sep.
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Message 40579 - Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 18:53:29 UTC - in response to Message 40577.  

Maybe it's just too early...


Unfortunately so. I've been having very great difficulty with the backups, I'm afraid. I've managed to restore some data, but there's still quite a bit more to do.

Even a simple query, e.g. to count the number of entries in a table, takes a little over 5 minutes and a restore attempt or dump several hours.
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Message 40580 - Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 19:04:10 UTC - in response to Message 40579.  

I've also lost more than 60.000 Points!!!

Will it help you, if we stop all activity so you must not wait 5 minutes for a query result?

Or is there a chance to get the lost points back?

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