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Message 32618 - Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 14:04:36 UTC

Is the memory required to run hadsm3 higher than before? Or is the server just confused?

17/02/2008 11:25:49|climateprediction.net|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 33 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
17/02/2008 11:25:53|climateprediction.net|Scheduler request succeeded: got 1 new tasks
17/02/2008 11:25:53|climateprediction.net|Message from server: Your computer has 1023.53MB of memory, and a job requires 1464.84MB
17/02/2008 11:25:55|climateprediction.net|Started download of hadsm3fub_038v_005930460.zip

http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/result.php?resultid=7248520

PS: I have in my preferences to only download hadsm3; no hadam3.


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Message 32623 - Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 15:43:32 UTC
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It\'s a confusing message isn\'t it? It just means that one of the job types on offer (HADAM3) has a large memory requirement - even if the preferences exclude it. So far as I know, the HADSM3 is the same as ever.

I\'ll post a message where the project can see it, to see whether a preference-dependent message can be implemented.
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Message 32627 - Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 16:19:38 UTC - in response to Message 32618.  

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PS: I have in my preferences to only download hadsm3; no hadam3.


It might be that your preferences are ineffective - the most common reason for this is \'venues\'. Could you post the top 20 lines or so of your Boinc message log (the bit which says which venue each project is using).

Once you have seen the venue for the host, make sure that the venue on the website also has \'HadAM3\' excluded.
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Message 32630 - Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 16:43:11 UTC - in response to Message 32629.  

It\'s a confusing message isn\'t it? It just means that one of the job types on offer (HADAM3) has a large memory requirement - even if the preferences exclude it. So far as I know, the HADSM3 is the same as ever.

I\'ll post a message where the project can see it, to see whether a preference-dependent message can be implemented.



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Message 32631 - Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 16:58:14 UTC - in response to Message 32627.  
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PS: I have in my preferences to only download hadsm3; no hadam3.


It might be that your preferences are ineffective - the most common reason for this is \'venues\'. Could you post the top 20 lines or so of your Boinc message log (the bit which says which venue each project is using).

Once you have seen the venue for the host, make sure that the venue on the website also has \'HadAM3\' excluded.


Just checked the venues here at climateprediction and all are home (computer/preferences).

17/02/2008 09:37:05||Starting BOINC client version 5.10.30 for windows_intelx86
17/02/2008 09:37:05||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
17/02/2008 09:37:05||Libraries: libcurl/7.17.1 OpenSSL/0.9.8e zlib/1.2.3
17/02/2008 09:37:05||Data directory: C:\\Program Files\\BOINC
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17/02/2008 09:37:05||Processor features: fpu tsc sse 3dnow mmx
17/02/2008 09:37:05||OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)
17/02/2008 09:37:05||Memory: 1023.53 MB physical, 2.40 GB virtual
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17/02/2008 09:37:05||Local time is UTC +0 hours
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17/02/2008 09:37:05|climateprediction.net|URL: http://climateprediction.net/; Computer ID: 798778; location: home; project prefs: default
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17/02/2008 09:37:05||General prefs: from http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ (last modified 04-Aug-2007 12:55:10)
17/02/2008 09:37:05||Host location: home
17/02/2008 09:37:05||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
17/02/2008 09:37:05||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 511.77MB
17/02/2008 09:37:05||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 921.18MB



It\'s a confusing message isn\'t it? It just means that one of the job types on offer (HADAM3) has a large memory requirement - even if the preferences exclude it. So far as I know, the HADSM3 is the same as ever.

I\'ll post a message where the project can see it, to see whether a preference-dependent message can be implemented.


OK. It really is a confusing message if one has excluded HADAM3, and the server still talks about it.


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Message 32632 - Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 17:00:53 UTC


Thanks for that. In that case, could you try this?

Your account / climateprediction.net preferences / Add seperate preferences for home (at the bottom) / Then tick HadSM3 and leave the others unticked. Save.


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Message 32633 - Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 17:10:46 UTC - in response to Message 32632.  


Thanks for that. In that case, could you try this?

Your account / climateprediction.net preferences / Add seperate preferences for home (at the bottom) / Then tick HadSM3 and leave the others unticked. Save.



It\'s done.


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Message 32634 - Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 18:03:33 UTC


It may or may not make a difference - but if you receive the same message again, we\'d appreciate knowing about it :-)

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Message 32637 - Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 19:42:12 UTC

OK ;-)


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Message 32656 - Posted: 19 Feb 2008, 12:36:21 UTC - in response to Message 32623.  

It\'s a confusing message isn\'t it? It just means that one of the job types on offer (HADAM3) has a large memory requirement - even if the preferences exclude it. So far as I know, the HADSM3 is the same as ever.

I\'ll post a message where the project can see it, to see whether a preference-dependent message can be implemented.


I can remove this message from the scheduler if it would help.
But this would apply in all situations.
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Message 32657 - Posted: 19 Feb 2008, 14:00:29 UTC - in response to Message 32656.  

I can remove this message from the scheduler if it would help.
But this would apply in all situations.


Would it not be possible to modify the message to \"Your computer has 1023.53MB of memory. Please ensure your preference settings exlude HADAM3 type jobs which require 1464.84MB\"

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Message 32658 - Posted: 19 Feb 2008, 14:34:37 UTC - in response to Message 32657.  

I can remove this message from the scheduler if it would help.
But this would apply in all situations.


Would it not be possible to modify the message to \"Your computer has 1023.53MB of memory. Please ensure your preference settings exlude HADAM3 type jobs which require 1464.84MB\"

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Or:

\"Your computer has 1023.53MB of memory, and a job requires 1464.84MB (only applies to HADAM3)\"


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Message 32659 - Posted: 19 Feb 2008, 17:57:39 UTC


The trouble is that this is code which is maintained by Berkeley, it can be modified here but the change would disappear again when the server-side code is updated.

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Message 32665 - Posted: 19 Feb 2008, 20:30:08 UTC - in response to Message 32659.  


The trouble is that this is code which is maintained by Berkeley, it can be modified here but the change would disappear again when the server-side code is updated.

So the Boinc code interrogates the Science App to determine the amount of memory that may be required? That\'s too clever by half...

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Message 32666 - Posted: 19 Feb 2008, 20:32:57 UTC


Nope, that\'s just a configured entry in a database table. The wording of the message, and when it appears, is the problem...

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Message 32674 - Posted: 19 Feb 2008, 21:31:47 UTC - in response to Message 32666.  


Nope, that\'s just a configured entry in a database table. The wording of the message, and when it appears, is the problem...

Gotcha. Thanks for the explanation.

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Message 32682 - Posted: 20 Feb 2008, 7:58:51 UTC

Then maybe in the climateprediction.net preferences something like this:

Prefer this type of model
Requires 1.5GB RAM minimum
[ignore messsage from server if not selected]



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Message 33100 - Posted: 27 Mar 2008, 9:56:01 UTC - in response to Message 32632.  


Thanks for that. In that case, could you try this?

Your account / climateprediction.net preferences / Add seperate preferences for home (at the bottom) / Then tick HadSM3 and leave the others unticked. Save.



It didn\'t make a diference.

27/03/2008 09:50:39|climateprediction.net|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 49304 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
27/03/2008 09:50:44|climateprediction.net|Scheduler request succeeded: got 1 new tasks
27/03/2008 09:50:44|climateprediction.net|Message from server: Your computer has 1023.53MB of memory, and a job requires 1464.84MB
27/03/2008 09:50:46|climateprediction.net|Started download of hadsm3fub_0001_005940671.zip
27/03/2008 09:50:47|climateprediction.net|Finished download of hadsm3fub_0001_005940671.zip



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Message 33103 - Posted: 27 Mar 2008, 18:24:07 UTC


OK, thanks for trying :-)

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