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Message 28844 - Posted: 21 May 2007, 9:24:06 UTC

Have you also thought about how much impact politics has on this issue.

In my country all prices go up like mad for everything gas,eletric and many things more but one of them is water.

Now what has water price for impact on global warming, i can show you in every town there is.

People change their gardens into pavements or even into parking spots because
they don\'t want to water the garden for the plants and have to work on the them.

So you see this changing into a barren wasteland full of brick, which ofcourse has a enormous impact on animals as well, no wonder lots of species are going to die out.

And ofcourse this has a impact on global warming as well again less plants who do the co2 conversion.
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Message 28846 - Posted: 21 May 2007, 10:18:47 UTC - in response to Message 28844.  

Have you also thought about how much impact politics has on this issue.

In my country all prices go up like mad for everything gas,eletric and many things more but one of them is water.

Now what has water price for impact on global warming, i can show you in every town there is.

People change their gardens into pavements or even into parking spots because
they don\'t want to water the garden for the plants and have to work on the them.

So you see this changing into a barren wasteland full of brick, which ofcourse has a enormous impact on animals as well, no wonder lots of species are going to die out.

And ofcourse this has a impact on global warming as well again less plants who do the co2 conversion.


Good one! This goes to show that panic doesn\'t solve anything. This does sound like a panicky decision, where ones actions contradict the purpose. Of course pumping up water needs a lot of energy, just try lifting 10 litres of water and then think about how many litres of water goes to watering the garden. But then comes the contradiction, as you mention, people are not willing to pay the price and what happens? You get a concrete jungle. Many scientists say that if we were to plant more parks in the cities we could slow the global warming considerably. Before we react we should think things through and find the best solution, unfortunately we do not a time to think things thoroughly through, but one doesn’t have to be a rocket scientist to see means like these will lead to the opposite effect.

Money shouldn’t be the issue any more, countries like the one I live in and other rich nations should show that they take global heating serious and spend what is needed on finding solutions to slow it down. What I think many nations do not want to hear is that if global heating keeps on increasing like it is now for 100 years, it will ruin the global economy. What scares me is that the worst polluter USA is not willing to put pressure to find eco friendly systems. It as if the government doesn’t want to see what’s going on. They would rather sit and wait to see if it gets any worse. Even economist are shouting and warning about what a catastrophe global heating will have on every single countries economy, but for some reason the USA government doesn’t want to react. I’m almost certain that if USA were to say enough is enough, we have to find alternative means, the other countries would follow suit.

Even though Norway has not reduced it CO2 outlet since 2003, it only counts for a maximum of 2% of the global outlet. This is no excuse to not try and reduce the outlet, but goes to show that no matter how much countries like Norway reduce the outlet it count for so little, as long as counties like USA, China and India keep on increasing their outlet. What I think, my personal opinion that is, is that then countries like Norway say, why should we reduce our outlet that will have no effect on global heating and loose out on the income if the big polluters don’t, why should we pay the bill?

As Rory mentioned there are many more gasses that can count in as greenhouse gasses like methane, sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides and carbon oxides, but today it is carbon dioxide that is the biggest threat. Especially since scientist now say that the lungs of the world, Antarctic sea, is filled up with CO2 and cannot absorb any more.

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Message 28969 - Posted: 25 May 2007, 15:08:25 UTC - in response to Message 28738.  

I would like to first ask how many of you leave your computers running to crunch as much CPDN as possible?

Secondly, do you know where the electricity that your computer(s) uses to crunch comes from (or that delivers electricity to your electricity outlet comes from)?

Thirdly, have you ever considered that leaving your computer on to crunch CPDN data is a contradiction?

The reason I’m thinking this is because in many countries fossil fuel is used to generate energy and this is one of the main reasons we have global warming today. So ask your selves next time you leave your computer on to do some crunching: Why do I participate? If the reason is to get at better understanding of global warming and maybe find a solution, then turn your computer of when you are finished using it. It will be a contradiction to leave it on just to crunch data.


It has crossed my mind as well. However I am in an area that is dependen on Nuclear and water generated electricity. My systems do not draw or use that much energy when running. When you compare it to lights, AC ect, which I use little of, the desktop and laptop PC\'s craw far less energy. I use only LCD monitors which sue less energy as well, and they are not on. My laptop is actually charged by my Car while driving to work or productions. THe rest of the time at home.

I your PC is set up correctly it wont draw excessive energy compared to other common household items. My Video card automatically kicks off in a self save mode. THe main CPU and hardrive remain active. IT draws very little energy, and a light bulb will draw more energy.
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Message 28973 - Posted: 25 May 2007, 20:25:03 UTC

As mentioned by Alasdair the paving of driveway\'s and gardens in the UK, is not reducing the CO2. But the main problem with this is down to water being absorbed from rainfall.
This sounds really petty, but its not. The less land able to absorb rain means a falling water table. So increasing a bad situation, in two ways, no green absorption of CO2 and rainfall running too waste down the drains as apposed to being used to higher the water table! .
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