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Message 28066 - Posted: 23 Apr 2007, 4:56:08 UTC

In the account info is the following headline:
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NB: Classic, Spinup, and Beta Test credits are factored in the above total credit
Seasonal Attribution and BBC Experiment Projects are credited on their particular sites (and the BOINC stats sites)


While BBC is shown (with 0.00 credits in my account as i never crunched for it) SAP is missing despite it\'s mentioning.

When will the 2 (headline and content) be corrected in either way: delete SAP from headline or show credits in info part?
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Message 28067 - Posted: 23 Apr 2007, 5:39:06 UTC

SAP totals are not going to be shown in that section.

The BBC totals are shown (and ONLY as a number, which ISN\'T in the total in the previous section), because a lot of the BBC crunchers were bereft at the thought of their credits being \'lost\'. A lot of them still hadn\'t/haven\'t \'gotten to grips\' with the idea of seeing totals on the external stats sites, and wanted them shown here.

And you know have much strife THAT caused, when Carl\'s first attempt went wrong and the incorrect totals got out to the external stat sites before he could correct it! So, NEVER AGAIN!
SAP totals are on the SAP site and the external stats sites.

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Message 28103 - Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 15:56:26 UTC - in response to Message 28067.  
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SAP totals are not going to be shown in that section.

The BBC totals are shown (and ONLY as a number, which ISN\'T in the total in the previous section), because a lot of the BBC crunchers were bereft at the thought of their credits being \'lost\'. A lot of them still hadn\'t/haven\'t \'gotten to grips\' with the idea of seeing totals on the external stats sites, and wanted them shown here.

And you know have much strife THAT caused, when Carl\'s first attempt went wrong and the incorrect totals got out to the external stat sites before he could correct it! So, NEVER AGAIN!
SAP totals are on the SAP site and the external stats sites.

I\'m not talking about adding credits somewhere, I just ask why is there a difference between the handling of BBC and SAP in this part of \"Your Account\":
Credit From Other Affiliated climateprediction.net Projects
NB: Classic, Spinup, and Beta Test credits are factored in the above total credit
Seasonal Attribution and BBC Experiment Projects are credited on their particular sites (and the BOINC stats sites)
NB: Classic, Spinup, and Beta Test credits are factored in the above total credit
Seasonal Attribution and BBC Experiment Projects are credited on their particular sites (and the BOINC stats sites)

\'Classic\' HadSM3 Cobblestone Credits 0.00
HadCM3 Spinup Cobblestone Credits 0.00
Beta Testing 0.00
BBC Experiment 0.00

BBC is in it, SAP is missing without explanation.
I have never crunched for BBC, just for SAP, so the 0.00 are correct for me, in SAP there would be a 5,184.00.

I see no difference between BBC and SAP, the headline makes no difference, but the stats are shown for BBC and not shown for SAP.

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Message 28111 - Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 20:32:18 UTC

As I said, The BBC credits are mentioned separately and specifically only for the benefit of BBC crunchers, most of whom are BOINC illiterate.

Everyone else should be aware of how to see their credits for other projects.

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Message 28114 - Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 21:47:10 UTC

Ouch! We\'re learning though, Les, and I expect most of us will be ready to be weaned in due course! ;-)

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Message 28115 - Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 22:02:39 UTC
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I\'m also still learning! I hate being weaned! My old computer crunches a model perfectly well without boinc and I have a BBC Manager instead! Same big B icon in the system tray but of course it means BBC.

I once posted this when cpdn was about to migrate from classic to boinc and everybody was terrified:


What is BOINC? you may ask.
Well, it can multitask.

A risky gambit?
DC - but not as we know it.

Share a platform with SETI!
Find ET, or the yeti.

CPDN\'s migration
will evoke admiration

and we can log on
thanks to D Anderson.

Picture the Pacific,
it will be terrific!

Trickles? What a shock!
Your computer won\'t stop.

Every day it will pee
just like you and like me.

Statistics so fast,
just forget all the past.

Collect cobblestones
for your patios and homes.

Servers so powerful -
all auto, no manual.

And uploads that fail
will no longer prevail.

Take us, Carl and Tolu -
We can love Berkeley too.


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Message 28116 - Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 22:28:42 UTC - in response to Message 28111.  

As I said, The BBC credits are mentioned separately and specifically only for the benefit of BBC crunchers, most of whom are BOINC illiterate.

Everyone else should be aware of how to see their credits for other projects.

With this explanation you have to throw out Classic, Beta and Spinup as well, at least the latter two are just insiders, who knew exactly what was going on.

I just want consistancy, and that is imho either all sub-projects listed, or none. (or, if you think the BBCers are still dumb enough not to know about it, what I doubt, just BBC).
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Message 28117 - Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 22:34:20 UTC


I know what you mean Mo, but actually I don\'t mind in the least being weaned, this whole thing continues to be a huge learning experience!

And I noticed (eagle eye here!) that when some changes were made to the CPDN stats pages recently, the BBC credits disappeared from the team pages (while remaining on individual pages). But I have not seen a single comment or complaint about that in any of the fora! (And this is not intended to be a complaint, I hasten to add, just a comment that maybe we BBC newbies are growing up!)

Sorry if it upsets you that our BBC credits are listed meantime, Saenger - just think of it, if you can, as a sort of comfort blanket that we\'ll grow out of! (You have a large Glenlivet meantime!)

Best regards, MM @ the Pavilion
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Message 28118 - Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 22:46:09 UTC


From GARDEN PARTY by Rick Nelson:

But it\'s all right, now,
I\'ve learned my lesson well,
See, you can\'t please ev\'ryone,
So you got to please yourself
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Which is what the cpdn project people have done.

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Message 28120 - Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 23:10:04 UTC

LOL: but they also at least showed willing by trying to integrate the credits, and then mollified the disgruntled BBC-ers (and avoided a possible mass exodus!) by letting their credits show at least for now!
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Message 28127 - Posted: 26 Apr 2007, 7:08:55 UTC - in response to Message 28116.  

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With this explanation you have to throw out Classic, Beta and Spinup as well, at least the latter two are just insiders, who knew exactly what was going on.
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You know the answer to this one :-) Classic, Beta, and Spinup\'s credits don\'t appear individually on stats sites.

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