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Message 24455 - Posted: 30 Sep 2006, 1:56:16 UTC

Looks like the credit generator has broken again.
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Message 24459 - Posted: 30 Sep 2006, 6:45:13 UTC - in response to Message 24455.  

Certainly seems that way -- but climate is not like Seti, so it seems there is a lot lower noise level \'from the masses\' when something goes bump in the night here.

Perhaps it is more difficult for the admins to update the home page with information when things go a bit off track here.

No big deal for me, I simply suspended the project and let my other active projects pick up the share.


Looks like the credit generator has broken again.


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Message 24460 - Posted: 30 Sep 2006, 7:18:08 UTC

I think that the program never got restarted over the server or whatever failure on the 27th.
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Message 24467 - Posted: 30 Sep 2006, 17:48:56 UTC - in response to Message 24460.  

And the server status report looks like a picture rather than a data stream. That is, notwithstanding the observable \'not running\' condition, it reads all green....



I think that the program never got restarted over the server or whatever failure on the 27th.
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Message 24472 - Posted: 30 Sep 2006, 21:04:09 UTC

Well, it just tells you that the major servers are running, but since credit generation is just a batch job it\'s not present in the list. Credit will be added for work done eventually, I can\'t imagine it\'ll be before Monday though (more likely Tuesday).
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Message 24475 - Posted: 30 Sep 2006, 23:39:43 UTC - in response to Message 24472.  

Well, it just tells you that the major servers are running, but since credit generation is just a batch job it\'s not present in the list. Credit will be added for work done eventually, I can\'t imagine it\'ll be before Monday though (more likely Tuesday).


That might be the case -- I thought that batch file was set to run daily, perhaps the crash earlier this week took out the directory where the batch file existed.

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Message 24479 - Posted: 1 Oct 2006, 9:51:30 UTC
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Most likely the files still exist, but the entry in the \'cron job\' listing has gone. The \'cron\' system is what is used to schedule batch jobs in a Unix system. Of course, it was \'92 when I last did that sort of stuff on Unix, so it may be different now...
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Message 24483 - Posted: 1 Oct 2006, 14:53:31 UTC


Look on the bright side - it\'s all credit in the bank. As soon as things get back to normal, credits will be granted. (In my case, as I post this on a Sunday afternoon, that\'s 4 trickles to be credited...)


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Message 24499 - Posted: 2 Oct 2006, 14:34:35 UTC

Credits have been given / are being given!

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Message 24594 - Posted: 7 Oct 2006, 18:39:29 UTC

Hello, new here and read everything on the boards and the faq`s. I`ve been crunching my first model for 24hrs and passed 12000 time steps. Should`nt it of trickled by now. Athlon xp2400+ winxp pro sp2.
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Message 24602 - Posted: 7 Oct 2006, 21:39:08 UTC

Hi, a trickle happens each 25920 timesteps (i.e., once per model year, at 1st-4th December).
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Message 24604 - Posted: 7 Oct 2006, 22:05:05 UTC

Thanks for that, its the faq`s that are misleading, it says 10800 timesteps there. Another 24hrs ish I should be ready to report someting.
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Message 24606 - Posted: 7 Oct 2006, 22:58:45 UTC

The current models are TCMs (Transient Coupled Models) also know as Coupled Ocean models in the science pages.

Some of the numbers in the FAQs are for the initial slab models, and some for the sulphur models which followed. (Then there are the spinup models, now finished, and the Seasonal Attribution models, which are nearly finished. These last two were/are specials, and didn\'t rate a mention in the FAQs.)

All types of models have different numbers.
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Every 10,802 timesteps your model will Trickle (report), and there are 24 Trickles in a phase.
is talking about slab and sulphur models. You can tell this by the \"24 Trickles\" part. Although only if you\'ve been around for a while.

Now that we know a bit about the TCMs, the FAQ should be reviewed again. I\'ll raise the matter with the admins.

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Message 24803 - Posted: 20 Oct 2006, 16:54:08 UTC - in response to Message 24602.  

Hi, a trickle happens each 25920 timesteps (i.e., once per model year, at 1st-4th December).


Getting slightly off topic here, but is a timestep about as long (in cpu time I mean) on Sulphur and on the current model? In which case we\'d expect trickles to be around 2.5x as far apart.

I\'m asking for a ballpark figure here please.
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Message 24804 - Posted: 20 Oct 2006, 17:13:17 UTC - in response to Message 24803.  

Hi, a trickle happens each 25920 timesteps (i.e., once per model year, at 1st-4th December).


Getting slightly off topic here, but is a timestep about as long (in cpu time I mean) on Sulphur and on the current model? In which case we\'d expect trickles to be around 2.5x as far apart.

I\'m asking for a ballpark figure here please.
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No, the CPU time is much more in a Coupled Model, that is why you get more credit per trickle. You now have a lot more processing going on. The trickles happen at the same timestep, but those timesteps are about 2x as long (37K seconds on Sulpher vs 65K seconds on Coupled, per my 2.8G P4).

Hope this answers your question.
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Message 24807 - Posted: 20 Oct 2006, 17:35:37 UTC

Slightly less than 57k on my AMD 64 3500+ (just though I\'d share to give others an idea).
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Message 24810 - Posted: 20 Oct 2006, 20:10:42 UTC

thanks PB27, yes it answers my q
& thanks Annika too
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