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Message 22037 - Posted: 14 Apr 2006, 16:38:53 UTC

You must be in the wrong Forum as your acct does not show you as being attached...BBC and Seasonal have their own websites and forums....
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Message 22068 - Posted: 15 Apr 2006, 19:00:04 UTC
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Colin

edit out the account key and eamil address NOW!

The 1st is like a password, and the 2nd is just the sort of thing that spammers are looking for.

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As for your other problem, you\'ve created two accounts:
ID: 176258 (the one you are now using to post)
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userid=176796 (the one on which you are crunching)

The 2nd one shows that you only have 319.48 MB, (1/2 the minimum), and the speed is 668MHz, which is 1/2 to 1/3 of that minimum recommended to finish a model in a reasonable time.

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Your model failed with: exit code 1073807364, which is a graphics problem.
The exact amount of memory shown on your account tends to indicate that you don\'t have a separate graphics card, just \"onboard\" chips. These use up some of the system memory, making it even harder for the processor to run the model.

All told, I don\'t think that your computer is suitable for this demanding task, but there are other, simpler, projects if you\'re interested.
Let us know if you\'d like help with upgrading your computer hardware, or if you\'d like the names of some other projects to try.



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Message 22100 - Posted: 16 Apr 2006, 20:43:46 UTC - in response to Message 22096.  
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LES,

FURTHER TO MY PREVIOUS MESSAGE THE LAST MESSAGES BELOW INDICATE i ASSUME WHERE WE ARE

16/04/2006 18:25:28|climateprediction.net|Finished download of yafbg.astart.gz
16/04/2006 18:25:28|climateprediction.net|Throughput 2439 bytes/sec
16/04/2006 18:26:13|climateprediction.net|Finished download of 1040_ocean.year.gz
16/04/2006 18:26:13|climateprediction.net|Throughput 2565 bytes/sec
16/04/2006 18:26:14||request_reschedule_cpus: files downloaded
16/04/2006 18:26:14||Suspending work fetch because computer is overcommitted.
16/04/2006 18:26:14||Using earliest-deadline-first scheduling because computer is overcommitted.
16/04/2006 18:26:15|climateprediction.net|Starting result hadcm3lbm_03jc_05060723_0 using hadcm3lb version 508

AT THAT TIME NO OTHER PROGRAMME WAS RUNNING SO PRESUMABLY YOU ARE CORRECT ABOUT LACK OF POWER??

ANYWAY PROGRAMME IS NOW RUNNING AND AT 20.00 POSITION IS: TIMESTEP 93 OF 414,750 EQUALS CPU 0.57 MINS WITH DEADLINE 16/11/2007

PLEASE CONFIRM MY MACHINE IS TOO SLOW TO BE WORTH PURSUING THIS PROJECT AND ADVISE HOW TO DETACH AND ATTACH TO SOMETHING WHERE i CAN CONTRIBUTE (FOR PREFERENCE SETI)

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Colin,

This is what Les meant:
CPU type GenuineIntel x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 3 668MHz
Memory 319.48 MB

Recommended minimum CPU speed is 1,500MHz; yours is less than half that.
Recommended minimum RAM memory is 512 Meg; yours is considerably short.

Will the Model run to completion on your machine? Perhaps. But trouble is expected and the outcome doubtful. Also, even if it runs all day every day, it will likely require more than a year to finish. (I didn\'t do the arithmetic, so can\'t give you a precise figure.)

Edit: Forgot some! To detach, go to \'Projects\' tab in the \'Manager\'. Highlight the climate project and click on \'Detach\' at the left.
To attach to something else, go to their site and open an account and follow directions to attach, or then return to Manager and attach from there. List of projects with hot-links here: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/
"We have met the enemy and he is us." -- Pogo
Greetings from coastal Washington state, the scenic US Pacific Northwest.
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Message 22102 - Posted: 16 Apr 2006, 20:56:49 UTC

The following is a repost of an earlier message, edited to remove personal details.

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Message 22067 - Posted 15 Apr 2006 18:41:35 UTC - in response to Message ID 22037. - [delete post] - [move post]

You must be in the wrong Forum as your acct does not show you as being attached...BBC and Seasonal have their own websites and forums....



THANKS I THINK

http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/show_user.php?userid=176796

THE ABOVE URL SHOWS MY ACCOUNT WITH WHAT I THOUGHT WAS CPDN. I DID HAVE A GLOBE ROTATING AND DATES COMMENCING IN 1920. ARE YOU SURE THIS IS NOT THE CORRECT FORUM. CERTAINLY I WAS PROMPTED TO JOIN BY A BBC PROGRAMME BUT WENT ALL AROUND THE WEB BEFORE FINALLY SUBSCRIBING


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DOES THIS HELP CLARIFY MY STATUS AND FROM WHICH FORUM I SHOULD BE SEEKING HELP.

HAVE I PERHAPS BECOME DETACHED??

MORE HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED


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Message 22155 - Posted: 17 Apr 2006, 20:30:30 UTC - in response to Message 22145.  

[quote]Many Thanks for help - have now successfully detached from CPDN and restarted with SETI which provides reasurance of some apparent progress early on. One separate question mentioned in my original query concerned whether necessary or advisable to EXIT or to SUSPEND before closing down computer by normal windows procedure. If the former presumably via file menu ?? Seem to remember some advice on this somewhere in multiple information but have been unable since to find it.

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I\'m of the \'better safe than sorry\' school, so I use Commands/Suspend and, when stopped, File/Exit.

If you don\'t run CPDN, though, that procedure probably isn\'t necessary. SETI, for example, is smaller and has fewer files to close. If it\'s necessary, you\'ll see remarks about it in the SETI Boards. (Except for a bit of SETI/Astropulse Beta, something like two years ago, I haven\'t run SETI since it moved to boinc, so my information about running it is suspect at best.)

Good luck over there.
"We have met the enemy and he is us." -- Pogo
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Message 22156 - Posted: 17 Apr 2006, 20:32:32 UTC

Having been involved with computers for over 30 years, I\'ve gotten used to closing down a computer gently. One tends to have problems when one shuts down a main frame by \"pulling the plug\".

So, I Suspend, wait until it says \"Suspended\", and then Exit. It\'s a reflex action.
And it WAS needed with earlier versions of BOINC.
But it is apparently OK to just Exit with current versions.

Both of these commands are in the Menu, and can also be accessed by right-clicking the globe/B icon in the systray.


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