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Message 20769 - Posted: 26 Feb 2006, 14:51:39 UTC

I recently joined the experiment but had problems downloading. The outcome is that there are 3 computers on my account, however they are really the same one entered 3 times. The experiment is running on one of them but I can\'t update it, as it only one (unused) computer is communicated with. How can I delete the 2 unused computers so that credits can be added to the one running the experiment. Thanks
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Message 20772 - Posted: 26 Feb 2006, 15:48:01 UTC

If they are the same computer, you should be able to merge them. Go to the individual computer webpage and at the bottom should be a Merge function that will put them back together.
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Message 20863 - Posted: 28 Feb 2006, 20:38:50 UTC - in response to Message 20772.  

If they are the same computer, you should be able to merge them. Go to the individual computer webpage and at the bottom should be a Merge function that will put them back together.


I\'ve looked on the computer summary page which I accessed from my account page, but there isn\'t a merge function there. Is there another computer webpage that I should be looking at? I did a site search for Merge but didn\'t come up with anything. Thanks
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Message 20873 - Posted: 28 Feb 2006, 22:55:15 UTC - in response to Message 20863.  

I\'ve looked on the computer summary page which I accessed from my account page, but there isn\'t a merge function there.

The page geophi is referring to, headed computer summary, is a whole page listing information about that computer only - you can drill down to it by clicking on the ID number in the list of your computers. At the bottom, the last item should be a merge option which you can select.
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Message 20875 - Posted: 1 Mar 2006, 0:37:28 UTC - in response to Message 20873.  

I\'ve looked on the computer summary page which I accessed from my account page, but there isn\'t a merge function there.

The page geophi is referring to, headed computer summary, is a whole page listing information about that computer only - you can drill down to it by clicking on the ID number in the list of your computers. At the bottom, the last item should be a merge option which you can select.


Hi. After drilling down, there is still no mention of merge. The last item on the list is Results. This is the page location:

http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/show_host_detail.php?hostid=390202

I have to say though, that since entering this correspondance, the computer doing the work has updated once. I\'d still like to get to the bottom of merging my computers into one, in case of future problems. Thanks.
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Message 20884 - Posted: 1 Mar 2006, 5:09:16 UTC

You say: hostid=390202
But, if I click on your name to the left of these posts, I get: hostid=388389

This means that you have two accounts, and you are looking at a different one to that from which you are posting.

Also, Results is the last entry on the list when looking at someone else\'s account.

So, we\'ll have to wait until you work out who you really are.

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Message 25473 - Posted: 5 Dec 2006, 20:21:10 UTC
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I have the option to merge my puters, but not to delete them.

Here they are:

    [*]476951 linux.site 40.83 3,888.00 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+ Linux 2.6.8-24.20-default 2 3 Dec 2006 20:15:23 UTC

    [*]372549 uwe-4u2m6baxrx4 0.00 28,355.25 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+ Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00) 7 30 Mar 2006 21:06:45 UTC

    [*]67244 herzke 0.00 13,232.45 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00) 2 29 Jun 2005 2:31:46 UTC


And none but the linux one is crunching any more.
I\'ve got no results/WUs connected to them any more that are not either expired or finished or crushed, so deletion should be possible. But it isn\'t :(

How do I get rid of this useless data?

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I will also post this in numbers, as I presume this forum less visited. I just found this thread via search and didn\'t look at the part of the forum it\'s in.
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Message 25475 - Posted: 5 Dec 2006, 20:32:31 UTC

I believe it is because the units never get \"validated\", so the delete option will never show. This project is very different from other projects, they do not purge out the old units, they stay in the online database. I am unsure they use a master database like other projects do, so they can not purge the data, so they do not validate it, which means it will never allow a machine to be deleted. Merging is fine, because the data will move to the merged machine, but no deleting.


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Message 28502 - Posted: 7 May 2007, 9:30:53 UTC

Hi, Been running climateprediction.net for four months and re-built my computer. BOINC assigned me two new tasks and I aborted them and merged my computer (as you have suggested below).
Problem is that the next time I was awarded two new tasks and the old ones are still sitting there not ticking over. Aborted the two new tasks and ended up with six tasks, two of them I want to run. Under \'Projects\' clicked on \'Update\' and still have no tasks in the \'tasks\' pane. Don\'t want to press the \'Reset Project\' or \'Detach\' buttons as I\'m afraid they will kill the work done to date. \'Update gives me a \'Communication deferred\' countdown.

How do I get my Windows PC to connect to those dormant tasks? I would appreciate your help.

This is the results from \'Your Account\' and \'Computers\' The last two tasks are the ones I would like to get back on board.

Results for computer
Result ID
click for details Work unit ID
click for details Sent Time reported
or deadline
explain Server state
explain Outcome
explain Client state
explain CPU time (sec) claimed credit granted credit

6497121 6034565 7 May 2007 7:32:09 UTC 7 May 2007 8:03:46 UTC Over Client error 495.95 1.07 0.00
6493953 6033773 7 May 2007 3:31:07 UTC 7 May 2007 7:30:45 UTC Over Client error Done 121.94 0.26 0.00
6485167 6031576 7 May 2007 7:31:53 UTC 7 May 2007 8:03:46 UTC Over Client error 757.45 1.63 0.00
6485038 6031544 7 May 2007 3:30:54 UTC 7 May 2007 7:30:45 UTC Over Client error Done 203.66 0.44 0.00
6314570 5876278 21 Jan 2007 5:18:54 UTC 3 Jan 2008 10:38:54 UTC In Progress Unknown New --- --- 7,257.60
6295800 5939403 21 Jan 2007 5:19:02 UTC 3 Jan 2008 10:39:02 UTC In Progress Unknown New --- --- 6,998.40


Thanks in advance
Ross.
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Message 28504 - Posted: 7 May 2007, 9:55:24 UTC

Are the models for those 2 tasks still in your Tasks tab?
If not, then there\'s no way to get them back.


Backups: Here
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Message 28525 - Posted: 7 May 2007, 23:42:45 UTC - in response to Message 28504.  

Are the models for those 2 tasks still in your Tasks tab?
If not, then there\'s no way to get them back.


Hi and thanks for replying. No the models are not in the tasks tab. They never showed up when I re-installed BOINC (a slightly later version 5.8.16).

I\'ve deleted the newer ones only to have them replaced with other new ones (both before and after I merged my computers).
The original tasks and the new running ones all show up with green text under \'Time reported or deadline\' and have a \'Client State\' as New.
I have a dual processor and BOINC gives me two tasks every download.

Are you sure there\'s no way to get them back? I\'ve watched the models grow ever so slowly over months and would rather like to see them finish.
Regards,
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Message 28526 - Posted: 8 May 2007, 1:05:55 UTC

You can only get them back from a backup made BEFORE it all went wrong.
The only place that a model exists, is on your computer, as a \'work in progress\'.


Backups: Here
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Message 28527 - Posted: 8 May 2007, 1:40:30 UTC - in response to Message 28526.  

You can only get them back from a backup made BEFORE it all went wrong.
The only place that a model exists, is on your computer, as a \'work in progress\'.


G\'day again, Boy you\'re fast!
Do have all the data as I installed windows on a separate hard drive when rebuilding the computer. X\"\\Program Fils\\BOINC\\projects\\climateprediction.net\\ and a directory name that matches the original workunit name from my earlier model. Contains directories such as \'datain, dataout, jobs and tmp\'
Do I just copy these directories across to the new/active directory on my boot drive? Is there much else to do?
Thanks for your help to date.
Cheers,
Ross.
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Message 28530 - Posted: 8 May 2007, 7:26:01 UTC


You\'ll need to copy the entire Boinc directory from the original location onto the new location (when Boinc is shut down, otherwise not all files will be copied).

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Message 28534 - Posted: 8 May 2007, 10:06:54 UTC

If you go to the project READMEs through my signature, in the README about avoiding model crashes item #1 is Les\'s easy backup & restore method. If you want a more sophisticated method, there\'s a README just about backups.
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Message 28544 - Posted: 9 May 2007, 1:04:10 UTC - in response to Message 28534.  

If you go to the project READMEs through my signature, in the README about avoiding model crashes item #1 is Les\'s easy backup & restore method. If you want a more sophisticated method, there\'s a README just about backups.

Thanks mate, worked a treat! Off and running with my old models at 18% of completion in four months. At this rate it will take over two years to finish even with a current model PC. That\'s some model! Good thing I know how to back it up now.
Thanks again.
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Message 28545 - Posted: 9 May 2007, 1:05:09 UTC - in response to Message 28530.  


You\'ll need to copy the entire Boinc directory from the original location onto the new location (when Boinc is shut down, otherwise not all files will be copied).

Thanks mate, worked a treat! Off and running with my old models. Cheers, Ross
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