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Message 1574 - Posted: 24 Aug 2004, 18:38:00 UTC
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Question: Is this app for use with the older client,Boinc, or both?

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Message 1606 - Posted: 25 Aug 2004, 13:14:36 UTC - in response to Message 1574.  
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&gt; Question: Is this app for use with the older client,Boinc, or both?
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It's designed for use with the older client (like my own unofficial version - follow my sig). They allow you to access an area of shared memory so you can see what your model is doing. As yet there is no way for other applications to access the model memory under boinc but Carl has mentioned that a plug-in of some description may be available in the future.

You can however use these programs to open the files and look at the data in the dataout directory under your projects folder from both the old version and the new boinc version.
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Message 1613 - Posted: 25 Aug 2004, 14:25:18 UTC - in response to Message 1606.  

yeah hopefully once the "launch madness" is behind us I can spend a little time making a cpdnboinc.dll and the necessary calls for IDL to use BOINC (shouldn't be too bad or take too long).

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Message 1623 - Posted: 25 Aug 2004, 15:17:47 UTC - in response to Message 1613.  
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&gt; yeah hopefully once the "launch madness" is behind us I can spend a little
&gt; time making a cpdnboinc.dll and the necessary calls for IDL to use BOINC
&gt; (shouldn't be too bad or take too long).
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Quick request - when you do do it, could we have access to some of the higher-res data such as the full 17 levels in the atmosphere..
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Message 1633 - Posted: 25 Aug 2004, 16:48:27 UTC - in response to Message 1623.  

Quick request - when you do do it, could we have access to some of the
&gt; higher-res data such as the full 17 levels in the atmosphere..

ugh, I don't think I get that output to shared memory per timestep, just low/mid/high clouds? that and snow/sea-ice, pressure, temp, precip (i.e. the usual).

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Message 1638 - Posted: 25 Aug 2004, 16:55:39 UTC

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Message 1649 - Posted: 25 Aug 2004, 17:28:37 UTC - in response to Message 1633.  

&gt; Quick request - when you do do it, could we have access to some of the
&gt; &gt; higher-res data such as the full 17 levels in the atmosphere..
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&gt; ugh, I don't think I get that output to shared memory per timestep, just
&gt; low/mid/high clouds? that and snow/sea-ice, pressure, temp, precip (i.e. the
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Fair enough. One that would be useful though, and not any more complex than what you already have, is the vector windspeed if you could arrange it. I think it's probably the only major component of the weather that most of us have any experience of which is missing. Should be interesting too if as you say the higher-res version will be able to resolve hurricanes.

If you wanted to save some processing time, I don't think there would be many objections to ditching snow/ice as a realtime field as it doesn't really change that fast.
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Message 1652 - Posted: 25 Aug 2004, 17:33:47 UTC - in response to Message 1649.  

&gt; Fair enough. One that would be useful though, and not any more complex than
&gt; what you already have, is the vector windspeed if you could arrange it. I
&gt; think it's probably the only major component of the weather that most of us

I'll bring it up when we start doing sulphur cycle stuff. I think wind vectors are in the output files, I remember the IDL vis2 showing them? Adding a field, whether per timestep or yearly requires changing the "stash" files (the jobs/double.stashc stuff) so it would be a fairly big change with current runs.

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Message 2132 - Posted: 30 Aug 2004, 9:58:46 UTC

Is it now possible to view an evolution of the paramater like temp or snow over time with boinc? maybe with the other viz app?

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Message 2138 - Posted: 30 Aug 2004, 10:55:16 UTC - in response to Message 2132.  

&gt; Is it now possible to view an evolution of the paramater like temp or snow
&gt; over time with boinc? maybe with the other viz app?
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Once the model has finished, you will be able to do this from the data in the archive directory using either the official IDL package or Martin Sykes' CPView2. At the moment you cannot do it whilst the BOINC version of the model is running, because Carl has some programming to do first and the BOINC launch is taking all his time.
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Message 4851 - Posted: 30 Sep 2004, 11:54:49 UTC - in response to Message 2138.  


&gt; Once the model has finished, you will be able to do this from the data in the
&gt; archive directory using either the official IDL package or Martin Sykes'
&gt; CPView2. At the moment you cannot do it whilst the BOINC version of the model
&gt; is running, because Carl has some programming to do first and the BOINC launch
&gt; is taking all his time.
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Where can I download this Add-On?


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Message 4854 - Posted: 30 Sep 2004, 13:55:37 UTC

&gt;Where can I download this Add-On?

You can get Martin Sykes' CPView <a href="http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm/cpdn.html">here</a>.

You will find the files on completed projects in the BOINC projects folder. You will need to extract them (they are zipped) to view. Best to do that into a new folder. As well as Martin's site, you will find further discussion on the <a href="http://www.climateprediction.net/board/viewforum.php?f=18">PHP board</a>.

Note that CPView (renamed from CPView2) was originally developed to view the currently running model in classic CPDN, and much of that functionality is missing in BOINC. I don't know whether Carl and Tolu are likely to find the time to do the necessary work to make that possible under BOINC.

The other visualisation package is <a href="http://www.climateprediction.net/rostra/news.php?r=1&amp;t=2&amp;id=56">available from this link</a> but it is specifically intended to support the classic version. Whilst it can also be used to look at past BOINC experiments, it probably isn't worth bothering with unless you are seriously interested. I can explain how to use it if you want me to.
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Message 4861 - Posted: 30 Sep 2004, 18:16:12 UTC

Thx I'll try it if the run is compleated!


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Message 4902 - Posted: 1 Oct 2004, 20:42:41 UTC - in response to Message 4861.  
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Somewhat Off-Topic, but :

...since the completion of a whole CPDN Model takes a very long time, it would be great to have it (or its raw data) saved somewhere, so that one could generate something like a polished High Resolution Printout to see the finished Result.

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Message 4910 - Posted: 1 Oct 2004, 22:32:34 UTC - in response to Message 4902.  
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&gt; ...since the completion of a whole CPDN Model takes a very long time, it would
&gt; be great to have it (or its raw data) saved somewhere, so that one could
&gt; generate something like a polished High Resolution Printout to see the
&gt; finished Result.
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&gt; Sort of like a Trophy, something nice to view on Paper or On-Screen :)

You'd be amazed what you can do with Martin Sykes's CPView already. As each completed model leaves about 385MB of compressed files on your HD, you might as well do something with them :-)

There's been a lot of discussion of having official certificates to print off, but it might be more fun to make a globe from your printout using CPView or <a href="http://www.climateprediction.net/newsb.php?id=6">a Photoshop plug-in</a>. There's a picture of one <a href="http://www.climateprediction.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=2184">here</a> with Honza's cat.
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