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Message 12144 - Posted: 29 Apr 2005, 19:56:34 UTC

Hello,

I just tried to look in the other forum (and on the home page) for some hours, and after failing constantly I tried a tracert. Here's the outcome:

<i>Routenverfolgung zu www.climateprediction.net [137.108.64.33] über maximal 30 Abschnitte:

1 56 ms 58 ms 58 ms 212-62-80-254.teleos-web.de [212.62.80.254]
2 * * 69 ms m5-re.dts-online.net [212.62.64.3]
3 65 ms 63 ms 63 ms hbg-b2-pos2-0-0.telia.net [213.248.76.89]
4 63 ms 64 ms 65 ms hbg-bb1-pos7-2-3.telia.net [213.248.64.121]
5 69 ms 69 ms 72 ms adm-bb1-pos7-0-0.telia.net [213.248.65.153]
6 78 ms 78 ms 84 ms ldn-bb1-pos7-0-0.telia.net [213.248.65.149]
7 77 ms 76 ms 78 ms ldn-b4-pos2-0.telia.net [213.248.65.98]
8 77 ms 77 ms 78 ms ukerna-108052-ldn-b4.c.telia.net [213.248.100.170]
9 78 ms 79 ms 78 ms po2-3.lond-scr4.ja.net [146.97.35.233]
10 77 ms 78 ms 78 ms gi0-1.lond-bar4.ja.net [146.97.35.210]
11 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
12 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
13 * *
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Has anyone else this problems as well?
Is it on my side, or over there?
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Message 12145 - Posted: 29 Apr 2005, 20:24:51 UTC - in response to Message 12144.  

Same problem here for the last couple hours. Hacked? Server crash?
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Message 12148 - Posted: 29 Apr 2005, 20:47:18 UTC

If the Open University server has been hacked again, they will NOT be putting our phpbb forum back in a hurry. Hope it's just a server failure, and that the techs work Saturdays.

Just tried the emergency backup forum. It's still up. And a trickle that I just uploaded has made it OK.

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Message 12150 - Posted: 29 Apr 2005, 21:12:54 UTC
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No connection here - not just the forum but the whole Oxford site. Whatever the cause, I expect Tolu will be groaning. BTW, Monday is a public holiday in the UK and good weather has been forecast, so a lot of people will be planning a long weekend away........
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Message 12153 - Posted: 29 Apr 2005, 22:12:58 UTC

Oxford uni being dead would explain the front page, but the other forum is on KMI servers, at The Open Uni at Milton Keynes, 40 or so miles to the NE of Oxford.
And now there's a 3 day weekend.
145 hours, (6 days), until my next model, (a 4.12), uploads. Time for some extra praying.

Fine sunny autumn Saturday morning here in Sydney.
We had last Monday as a p.u. for Anzac day. What's the holiday, Monday, for?

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Message 12154 - Posted: 29 Apr 2005, 22:22:17 UTC - in response to Message 12153.  
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&gt; What's the holiday, Monday, for?

May Day. Or the first Monday in May, as UK public holidays are on Mondays except for Christmas and New Year. May Day was a traditional festival in parts of England, but has a more immediate association with the labour movement. It became a public holiday in the 1970s but is not popular because it comes sandwiched between Easter Monday and the last Monday in May which is the Spring holiday (originally the Monday after Whitsun (Pentecost)).
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Message 12156 - Posted: 29 Apr 2005, 23:12:36 UTC

It's a bit difficult to celebrate what a holiday is intended to be for when it isn't held on the real day. Calendar-wise, the British rather lack a sense of occasion.

Having public holidays on Mondays is probably to discourage us from copying the bad (?) French/Spanish habit of 'faire le pont'. When a public holiday is on a Thursday, these continentals quite disgracefully also want the Friday off as they think it isn't worth going in to work for just one day.

The French have been asked to give up one of their 13 public holidays, May 16, to fund more care for the aged and disabled. Some unions are refusing to comply. Apparently the SNCF has capitulated to its workers and is allowing them to have May 16 off, BUT staff will have to work an extra 1m 52sec every working day of the year to compensate. I hope they all have accurate atomic watches.
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Message 12157 - Posted: 29 Apr 2005, 23:59:25 UTC

Thanks Andrew and Mo.
If I'd looked at the calendar for tomorrow, I may have guessed. I've heard of May Day a bit over the years. Although a lot of the fun from years past is probably considered unacceptable to various ethnic groups these days.

As for accurate clocks, there was a news item last night about a new atomic clock developed in Western Australia, that is accurate to 1 second in a few million years. The main element is sapphire, and the ESA is keen to get hold of one to send to the ISS.

And the WA people are working on a more accurate clock, based on light and ultra-cold atoms. This one is expected to be accurate to +- 1 second in 10 billion years.
Not too portable, but you may get it into a small trailer.

Just a thought: I think that Oxford must be working, because I can get to my account page, and we're posting on this board. The Q &amp; P board is also there, and all 3 of these are at Oxford.
The front page has the same url as the community forum, so it's the OU server(s), or maybe the KMI servers which are down.

I'd keep my fingers crossed, but it's too hard to do anything like that, and last time, we lost the forum for two months.

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Message 12171 - Posted: 30 Apr 2005, 12:56:33 UTC

Well, the climateprediction.net is not working for me neither, while all http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ pages (forum, account page) work fine.
Here in Spain, if a public holiday happens on Sunday, people will take Monday off (isn't that neat?) so we've got a long weekend ahead.... :-) take care and enjoy the sun! :-D
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Message 12175 - Posted: 30 Apr 2005, 15:56:49 UTC - in response to Message 12144.  

looks like it's OpenU down (at least the main CPDN server there) but the Oxford servers seem to be up. It is a long weekend in the UK so I wouldn't expect the main site to be up until Tuesday.
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Message 12180 - Posted: 30 Apr 2005, 17:52:22 UTC - in response to Message 12153.  
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&gt; And now there's a 3 day weekend.
&gt; 145 hours, (6 days), until my next model, (a 4.12), uploads. Time for some
&gt; extra praying.

G'day, Les,

Shouldn't be a problem. Three Models from two different machines uploaded within the last 24-hours -- the five summary files and final Trickle to their respective servers. [Edited to correct a typo.]

(To be honest, and being a dark-cloud rather than silver-lining sort, I'm still a bit anxious because a couple more Models are due to go up later today.)


Yo, Carl!
Good to see you on the Boards!
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Message 12186 - Posted: 30 Apr 2005, 20:02:17 UTC

Of course my new Sempron machine just got put together and is just sitting here idle with no ability to get a model! &gt;:(

Oh well. :)

BTW the Sempron 2800+ or 2600+ OC all the way up to ~2.4 GHz (from 1.6GHz).


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Message 12187 - Posted: 30 Apr 2005, 20:12:30 UTC - in response to Message 12186.  
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&gt; Of course my new Sempron machine just got put together and is just sitting
&gt; here idle with no ability to get a model! &gt;:(
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&gt; Oh well. :)
&gt;
See this <a href="http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/forum_thread.php?id=2475">thread</a> for Carl's suggestion of an alternate URL to attach to.
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Message 12189 - Posted: 1 May 2005, 2:57:50 UTC - in response to Message 12187.  

&gt; &gt; Of course my new Sempron machine just got put together and is just
&gt; sitting
&gt; &gt; here idle with no ability to get a model! &gt;:(
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Oh well. :)
&gt; &gt;
&gt; See this <a> href="http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/forum_thread.php?id=2475"&gt;thread</a>
&gt; for Carl's suggestion of an alternate URL to attach to.
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Doh! I almost tried something like that but thought it might screw up my results.

Thanks for the info!
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Message 12190 - Posted: 1 May 2005, 4:23:32 UTC - in response to Message 12189.  

&gt; Doh! I almost tried something like that but thought it might screw up my
&gt; results.
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&gt; Thanks for the info!

nah, this URL is fine to use for BOINC, the main climateprediction.net page just redirects to this via BOINC, so this is simply the direct link:

http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc

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Message 12207 - Posted: 1 May 2005, 22:09:06 UTC

Yesterday I eventually managed to get to the classic cpdn user login page, but it wouldn't let me log in to see my classic model results. Today it has allowed me to log on and I see that my machine has trickled to Oxford (or Milton Keynes?). My stats are all up-to-date and I can tell from the group stats page that other classic users are also trickling normally.
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Message 12210 - Posted: 2 May 2005, 8:06:37 UTC
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I've been able to upload a finished WU last night, but not to report it or download any new work. Guess that will have to wait till tomorrow... ;-)
No trickles for the end of Phase 3 have appeared as yet, though. Is it because the WU has not yet been reported? Last trickles show as April 29.
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Message 12211 - Posted: 2 May 2005, 9:27:41 UTC

For last 2 days (I was away before that) all I get, when I try to update, is:
2.5.2005 12:02:06|climateprediction.net|Master file fetch failed.

Is anyone else having the same trouble?

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Message 12213 - Posted: 2 May 2005, 11:55:46 UTC

I looked at my messages and this keeps coming up:

02/05/2005 11:34:50|climateprediction.net|Master file fetch failed
02/05/2005 11:34:50|climateprediction.net|Deferring communication with project for 1 minutes and 0 seconds

My trickles seem to upload okay
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Message 12214 - Posted: 2 May 2005, 12:25:20 UTC

Looks to be back up now (along with the phpbb forum), although the stats on the main climateprediction.net page haven't updated yet.
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