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Message 10828 - Posted: 14 Mar 2005, 3:55:52 UTC

I have a machine that will finish a model soon, but when I connect it and boinc asks for more work I don't get any.
Restarted Seti Driver so it won't go dry.
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Message 10834 - Posted: 14 Mar 2005, 7:20:59 UTC - in response to Message 10828.  

> I have a machine that will finish a model soon, but when I connect it and
> boinc asks for more work I don't get any.
> Restarted Seti Driver so it won't go dry.
>

I just returned from a 3 day CPDN BOINC hiatus, where I was running SETI Classic exclusively. Now upon my return, I'm having the exact same problem: "No Work From Project" followed by the ubiquitous "Deferring communication..."!

Darn it!

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Message 10841 - Posted: 14 Mar 2005, 9:19:18 UTC

Hi Stratcat,
I was away for about 3 days due to 'net failure. And now 'no work'.
AND I've disappeared from the top hosts list.
It should be nearly 10am at Oxford, so maybe soon? :(

But I've now got BOINC 4.25. Ugly looking. Glad I don't have it up much.

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Message 10843 - Posted: 14 Mar 2005, 10:30:41 UTC

Same here...
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Message 10845 - Posted: 14 Mar 2005, 12:10:20 UTC

Tolu just replied me via e-mail that it should be fixed by now.
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Message 10851 - Posted: 14 Mar 2005, 13:51:06 UTC

Tried again but now got this:
"SHEDULER_REPLY::parse(): bad first tag Content-type: text/plain
Can't parse sheduler reply"

I don't like Mondays...
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Message 10855 - Posted: 14 Mar 2005, 14:04:57 UTC

Me too.
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Message 10861 - Posted: 14 Mar 2005, 15:04:13 UTC

One of my boxes downloaded brand new 4.10 model.
But there are others getting "SHEDULER_REPLY::parse(): bad first tag Content-type: text/plain
Can't parse sheduler reply"
http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/forum_thread.php?id=2174
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Message 10872 - Posted: 14 Mar 2005, 18:46:21 UTC
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Got a new model.
Happy again.
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Message 11109 - Posted: 19 Mar 2005, 6:31:28 UTC

since yesterday I'm getting

--- - 2005-03-19 07:08:24 - Insufficient work; requesting more
climateprediction.net - 2005-03-19 07:08:24 - Requesting 28974 seconds of work
climateprediction.net - 2005-03-19 07:08:24 - Sending request to scheduler: http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc_cgi/cgi
climateprediction.net - 2005-03-19 07:08:27 - Scheduler RPC to http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc_cgi/cgi succeeded
climateprediction.net - 2005-03-19 07:08:27 - Message from server: No work available
climateprediction.net - 2005-03-19 07:08:27 - No work from project

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Message 11111 - Posted: 19 Mar 2005, 7:45:02 UTC - in response to Message 11109.  

&gt; since yesterday I'm getting
&gt;
&gt; --- - 2005-03-19 07:08:24 - Insufficient work; requesting more
&gt; climateprediction.net - 2005-03-19 07:08:24 - Requesting 28974 seconds of
&gt; work
&gt; climateprediction.net - 2005-03-19 07:08:24 - Sending request to scheduler:
&gt; http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc_cgi/cgi
&gt; climateprediction.net - 2005-03-19 07:08:27 - Scheduler RPC to
&gt; http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc_cgi/cgi succeeded
&gt; climateprediction.net - 2005-03-19 07:08:27 - Message from server: No work
&gt; available
&gt; climateprediction.net - 2005-03-19 07:08:27 - No work from project
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&gt; :-(((
&gt;

Me too :(
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Message 11114 - Posted: 19 Mar 2005, 7:54:03 UTC

I have reported to Tolu so it will be hopefully fixed before you run out of work.
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Message 11120 - Posted: 19 Mar 2005, 11:56:25 UTC

So how come I've been seeing the model I'm working on ticking away timesteps on my screensaver, and I've apparently been communicating with the project at least once a day, but no credits have posted since March 16? If this is a problem that needs to be reported to someone, how do I go about it?
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Message 11123 - Posted: 19 Mar 2005, 13:35:16 UTC - in response to Message 11120.  
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&gt; So how come I've been seeing the model I'm working on ticking away timesteps
&gt; on my screensaver, and I've apparently been communicating with the project at
&gt; least once a day, but no credits have posted since March 16?

The usual explanation would be that your model has rewound back to an earlier stage because the climate didn't look right and there may have been a calculating error. In such a case you will not earn credits until you get past the stage you had reached before (it would be too easy to cheat on the credits otherwise). You can check that by comparing the stage you are at in the screensaver with the last credited trickle on the website.

If it isn't that, it is possible that your trickles have not been getting through. Check there aren't any unsent trickle files in your project folder. Missed trickles don't matter in themselves, as they don't contain important data and the credit is sorted out at the end of the run. If you continue to be unable to send trickles, though, or they are definitely being sent but not credited when they should be, post the contents of the message that you get when communicating with the server for further advice.
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Message 11130 - Posted: 19 Mar 2005, 16:08:08 UTC
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Have faith folks, just downloaded a new executable and a new model after having troubles all day.
But why these problems?
Not enough hardware or bandwith?
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Message 11131 - Posted: 19 Mar 2005, 16:11:10 UTC

Yeah, I have the same problem of not getting new work. P@H is also down due to website upgrades. I have one question. Can I downgrade back to 4.25 by uninstalling 4.26?
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Message 11138 - Posted: 19 Mar 2005, 16:55:38 UTC

&gt; Can I downgrade back to 4.25 by uninstalling 4.26?
You may be the first to need to do this.
Life is tough in the fast lane.

As for the 'problems', I'm wondering if the server is being overloaded with robots prowling the site.
( Perhaps the aliens that SETI is looking for have found us.) :)

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Message 11140 - Posted: 19 Mar 2005, 17:16:20 UTC - in response to Message 11130.  

&gt; But why these problems?
&gt; Not enough hardware or bandwith?
&gt;

In the absence of any official word, we are free to speculate. On the face of it, it is surprising that these problems should be worse at weekends when the load at the Oxford lab is lightest, and term has now finished. My impression, too, is that they developed <i>after</i> the surge in participants, not in association with it.

I've a couple of suspicions. One is that applying a BOINC server software upgrade has messed things up somewhere. The other is that the lab have rebalanced the servers and CPDN has been squeezed. But maybe Les is right, and the server is just being hammered. Given the shortage of available staff on the team just now, I doubt that they have had time to sort things out in any event.

One of the chief hopes of the move to BOINC was that it would reduce server problems. We will have to wait and see whether that ever comes about.
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Message 11180 - Posted: 20 Mar 2005, 18:22:13 UTC

Just got a new model :-)))


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Message 11222 - Posted: 21 Mar 2005, 8:17:32 UTC - in response to Message 11130.  

&gt; But why these problems?
&gt; Not enough hardware or bandwith?

Well, <a href="http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/forum_thread.php?id=2246">here's</a> one reason.

It looks like a WU gets allocated every time the scheduler receives a request for work regardless of whether it's every received by the requesting host. When a host doesn't receive an allocated WU (no scheduler response to the request) that WU is going to be left in a state of limbo.
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