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Message 7891 - Posted: 28 Jan 2005, 10:38:30 UTC

Article in today's <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/science/story/0,12996,1400600,00.html">Guardian</a>.

Not sure whether I should laugh or cry ...
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Message 7978 - Posted: 28 Jan 2005, 23:16:07 UTC - in response to Message 7910.  
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one thing that would be interesting in the interest of fairness, is if the skeptics listed all of their funding bodies, i.e. corporations, right-wing "think tanks" etc. after all, CPDN lists who pays the bills, as do the published scientists (i.e. grants, institutions etc). I continually find it amazing that so many in the US (now that I'm back here) think global warming/climate change/science in general is "phony" because "scientists are just in it for the money" etc. Believe me, there are easier and far more effective ways to make money! ;-)
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Message 7981 - Posted: 28 Jan 2005, 23:25:08 UTC
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Well here's one for a start <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1399383,00.html">Oil firms fund climate change 'denial' </a>
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Message 8079 - Posted: 29 Jan 2005, 18:59:01 UTC
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Thanks, Marj.

In recent months, I read that the Pentagon considers Climate Change, and attendent consequences, the biggest threat to the US. (Sorry, I don't recall the source.) Supposedly, the world's (US's?) largest super computer is being built for the Pentagon to deal with it. (No doubt findings will be "Top Secret"!)

I find it interesting that Rummy and the Pentagon are in one camp and the Twit is is the other with its oil-buddies -- and even more interesting that Rummy wasn't fired in the recent Cabinet shake-out, because it is widely reported that Twit brooks no discouraging words from underlings.

Suspicious.

On the other hand, isn't Royal Dutch Shell funding climate and CO2-reduction research? (No, I'm NOT an oil lobbyist! Quite the opposite, actually.)
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Message 8087 - Posted: 29 Jan 2005, 20:47:31 UTC - in response to Message 8084.  
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It took me a bit to find the <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1240496,00.html">Guardian article</a> as it is Lord OXBURGH.

I missed the interview at the time as I was being made redundant and had other things on my mind. [still got my work PC for 80 UKP, not bad for a then top-of-the-range P4, and my redundancy paid of the mortgage :-) ]

Oh, and Lord OXBURGH is chairman of Shell Transport &amp; Trading Plc, not the parent company Royal Dutch/Shell.

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