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Posts by UBT - Timbo

1) Message boards : Cafe CPDN : Formula BOINC 2024 (Message 70412)
Posted 16 Feb 2024 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:
Formula BOINC 2024 re-launch

I am acting as admin for the above group and I wanted to let you know that the Formula BOINC website has been updated for the 2024 Season.

And that the Sprint Season will start on 29th February - just about 2 weeks time - so please help publicise Formula BOINC to your team members so that they can take part.

For Teams:
Teams previously registered to take part in these regular BOINC Challenges in previous years have been included for this season and Teams have now been allocated to one of 3 Leagues, depending on their performance in 2023.

If your team is NOT registered already, please ask your team founder to register (via the FB website)

Registered Teams are listed here:

https://formula-boinc.org/teams.py?race=0&division=1&standing=team

And it would be really good if your team members can take part and support the various BOINC projects throughout the forthcoming year.

As many teams are already registered, members do not have to do anything EXCEPT to make a note of the date and time when the Sprints will be taking place and to ensure that they are crunching tasks from the chosen project.

This information will be displayed on our website here:

https://formula-boinc.org/sprints.py?race=0&division=1&standing=team


For members:
We also have a Members League so that individuals can compete against one another - this is entirely voluntary but it can be rewarding to know how well you are doing when compared to other FB members - even those in the same team.

If any team members have not already registered, then there is a webpage that you can visit and register, which is here:

https://formula-boinc.org/howtoregister.py

And finally for all the latest news about Formula BOINC, we would ask members to visit our forum:

https://formula-boinc.org/forum/index.php

I do hope teams and members will support the Challenges and by doing so, this will help the many BOINC projects who need the support of volunteers in order to continue their research.

best regards
UBT - Timbo
Admin for Formula BOINC
2) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Sign Up broken (Message 69772)
Posted 11 Oct 2023 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:
Well, I tried doing exactly the same thing, using a Windows 7 machine running BOINC v7.24.1 - and it got attached at the first attempt. This is what I did:

Ran machine dry by setting 'no new work'
Switch off auto-run at startup
Applied today's big security update, and rebooted machine
Started BOINC from menu. Deleted CPDN
Closed BOINC, including shutting down client.
Restarted BOINC. Waited for all startup checks to complete.
Set <http_debug> logging.
Ran 'Attach to project' wizard. Selected CPDN from list - no alteration made.
Agreed to 'Terms of use' / licence agreement.


Hiya

I got to that same point, and pretty much did the same procedure (on the second host), but BM returned a Failed notice before I got the chance to enter ANY account details as you were able to (as follows):


Clicked 'Existing user' and supplied my own email address and password.
Reached 'finish' page in wizard - no other questions asked.


I never got to the above point. :-(

FYI: The first host didn't even get to the "Terms" section :-(

I would suggest that unless there are perhaps security reasons to consider, that you do NOT waste any more time on this.

I suspect the issue is an incompatibility, between my Windows 7 host and whatever the CPDN server is expecting to "see" as far as the host operating system is concerned...and given this is being done over https protocols, then it could be a real pain to try and find it out why it is failing.

The fact is though, that every other BOINC project that has been installed on BOTH the hosts I am running, install without any issues at all. But it might just be that ALL the other projects are less "demanding" when it comes to whatever configuration of host hardware and OS, is trying to connect via BOINC Manager ;-)

One day, when I do not need a Windows 7 environment on both hosts, I will upgrade to a more recent OS, and on those newer PC(s), then I will try again to help CPDN. :-)

best regards for all your help
Tim
3) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Sign Up broken (Message 69743)
Posted 10 Oct 2023 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:

Odd. I have just checked and found that on both Linux and Windows hosts I can remove the project and re-add it.
I have emailed Andy. In the meantime could you enable http debug via the event log options and try again and post the output? Then stop the http debug or it will fill up your event log very quickly!

I have to admit however that right now I am stumped!


Hi

I just enabled the http debug on my second host.

And then I tried to add CPDN to this second host using BM v7.24.1 and it sort of worked as it got to the Terms of use "page" (which it didn't do before) - I clicked on "I agree" and it then gave the same failure notice as previously advised.

I'll send you the error log by PM, as the log seems to contains personal data relating to my CPDN account!

I cannot try with the original host right now but will do so tomorrow, along with setting the debug error log.

regards
Tim
4) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Sign Up broken (Message 69716)
Posted 9 Oct 2023 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:
Further info:
---------------
I have a second host, that was running BM 7.20.2 and CPDN was already "joined" to this second host. So, this was reset and then removed and I used the "Add project" function to add CPDN project back onto the host...and it FAILED with the same report as before. :-(

regards
Tim


Hi

I just upgraded this second host to v7.24.1 and it also FAILED to add CPDN project. So, now 2 different hosts, in 2 different locations 20 miles apart, using 2 different ISPs and 3 different versions of BOINC Manager - and ALL have the same issue.

regards

Tim
5) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Sign Up broken (Message 69715)
Posted 9 Oct 2023 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:
Just read your post again. I added a new host yesterday without any issues. Could you try again and see if you are still getting the message?

Edit: It may be worth updating to the latest version of BOINC 7.24.1


Hi

Thanks for the reply.

I've tried again twice today and I keep getting the Failure notice as reported previously.

I also added another project to this same host and that worked perfectly - I already had an account with this other project, so once I input my email and password, it added the new project and downloaded the required files to this new host, and with zero issues - so my install of BOINC Manager seems to be OK.

With CPDN, I am not even getting to the section where I can enter my email/password info. :-(

I will let the current tasks (from other projects) finish, then reboot this specific host and install 7.24.1 and see what happens.

Further info:
---------------
I have a second host, that was running BM 7.20.2 and CPDN was already "joined" to this second host. So, this was reset and then removed and I used the "Add project" function to add CPDN project back onto the host...and it FAILED with the same report as before. :-(

regards

Tim
6) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Sign Up broken (Message 69703)
Posted 8 Oct 2023 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:
BOINC Manager is not allowing me to add my existing account to a new host. :-(
Tried to test it but I don't have a spare email to try it out with. I will let Andy know that this problem has resurfaced.


Hi Thanks for the reply.

FYI: I am running BOINC Manager v7.22.2 on a Windows 7 Pro host (yes, I know it's old !! but Win 8 was awful, Win 10 is a pain and the host machine doesn't support Win 11 :-( )

All other CPU based projects run perfectly fine. :-)

PS: Am glad the project is up and running again after not having any tasks for some years.

regards
Tim
7) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Sign Up broken (Message 69683)
Posted 6 Oct 2023 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:
Hi

BOINC Manager is not allowing me to add my existing account to a new host. :-(

The BM error message says:


Failed to add project
Please try again later
Click Finish to close


This error occurs whether I select CPDN in the project drop down list or if I add the URL manually.

regards
Tim
8) Message boards : Number crunching : "project doesn't support computers of type anonymous" - error message (Message 61464)
Posted 5 Nov 2019 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:
Perhaps you have a cc_config file that fiddles with the computer settings.


Hi

Thanks for the reply.

cc_config has nothing in it to cause any issues.

But it doesn't matter much, as the researchers here lately seem to favour modelling programs which are only available for Linux.
There's been little Windows work for months, and when a few thousand have shown up, they all went in less than an hour because of the thousands of computers waiting for them..


Indeed.

Judging by your high credit number, you must have other computers which ARE getting work here, so It may be easiest to just use that computer for other projects.


I'm not sure what you mean? By "high credit number" do you mean just on CPDN (where my total credit is just 111,850 - though I've been a member of this project for many years - I just never had enough CPUs or patience to wait for the CPDN tasks to be crunched in a timely fashion).

Otherwise, if you mean my "Total" credits - that's because I've been crunching (via BOINC) since the early 2000s and have contributed to many, many projects. :-)
9) Message boards : Number crunching : "project doesn't support computers of type anonymous" - error message (Message 61450)
Posted 4 Nov 2019 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:
Hi all

Anyone care to offer a possible explanation of the above CPDN message, as displayed in the BOINC Manager Error Log?

This hasn't stopped me getting any work from any other BOINC project that this specific (Windows) PC is attached to - so, I'm guessing that CPDN admins are doing something in the background to "verify" accounts (in order to prevent zombie computers from wasting their time).

Either way, any suggestions would be helpful - plus a way of fixing it.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : zero credit? (Message 58159)
Posted 30 Apr 2018 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:
Hi all

I recently re-started crunching some CPDN tasks and one was recently finished and uploaded.

After 330,000 seconds of crunching, I received ZERO credit.

The info is here:

Task Work unit Computer Sent Time Status Run time(sec) CPU time(sec) Credit Application
21158514 1447961 22 Apr 2018, 10:57:35 UTC 27 Apr 2018, 12:02:30 UTC Completed 330,953.55 309,575.80 0.00 Weather At Home 2 (wah2) v8.24
windows_intelx86


All the trickles seems to have been uploaded too:

Latest Trickles Received
Time Sent (UTC) Host ID Result ID Result Name Phase Timestep CPU Time (sec) Average (sec/TS)
28 Apr 2018 04:27:38 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 276,779 309,528 1.1183
28 Apr 2018 03:47:50 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 265,259 294,130 1.1088
28 Apr 2018 02:50:29 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 253,739 279,049 1.0997
28 Apr 2018 02:20:36 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 242,219 263,946 1.0897
28 Apr 2018 01:29:42 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 230,699 248,876 1.0788
28 Apr 2018 00:35:54 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 219,179 233,856 1.0670
27 Apr 2018 23:51:22 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 207,659 218,947 1.0544
27 Apr 2018 23:17:36 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 196,139 205,740 1.0489
27 Apr 2018 22:42:31 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 184,619 192,045 1.0402
27 Apr 2018 22:08:52 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 173,099 179,480 1.0369
27 Apr 2018 21:33:50 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 161,579 168,029 1.0399
27 Apr 2018 21:07:20 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 150,059 156,711 1.0443
27 Apr 2018 20:33:07 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 138,539 145,578 1.0508
27 Apr 2018 20:11:58 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 127,019 134,343 1.0577
27 Apr 2018 19:43:20 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 115,499 123,194 1.0666
27 Apr 2018 19:13:34 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 103,979 112,047 1.0776
27 Apr 2018 18:20:32 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 92,459 100,598 1.0880
24 Apr 2018 18:16:12 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 80,939 89,150 1.1014
24 Apr 2018 14:43:58 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 69,419 77,437 1.1155
24 Apr 2018 11:18:09 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 57,899 65,993 1.1398


The quorum seems to be set to "1", but this task is still waiting validation...

minimum quorum 1
initial replication 1
max # of error/total/success tasks 3, 3, 1
validation Pending


I know we're running on the backup server but basic simple operations should be running OK such as website, forums and validation of returned tasks ?
11) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unable to upload finished results (Message 28734)
Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:
\"mo.v\" wrote:
.....
Regarding the _13 upload, I\'ve checked on the model\'s trickles and going by the timesteps recorded it looks as if it reached 2050 and trickled for that year on 30 April. The server must have been accepting trickles but not file uploads.


OK, panic over.

Seems there *was* a connection issue via the ISP, which has now been resolved.

_14.zip has now uploaded !!

That\'s a weight off my mind.....!

regards,

Tim
12) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unable to upload finished results (Message 28733)
Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:
\"MikeMarsUK\" wrote:

If there is a backup which contains the _13 zip, then it should be possible to get it to be sent to the project using Thyme\'s technique?


Hi Mike,

Thanks for the idea. It had occurred to me, but my last backup on this PC was quite a while before the _13.zip file was created....

BOINC is the only program that resides on my C drive, and I rarely back this up as the PC has been very reliable up to now (that\'s it - the \"kiss of death\" has been invoked !!). As such, backing up the drive has never been a major priority.... :-( as there\'s been very little to \"lose\", as most projects I crunch on are much shorter duration.

I\'ve unsuccessfully completed BBC, CPDN and SAP WUs before now...usually the WU errors....but this is my 1st BBC WU (of 3) that might actually complete....468 hours to go.....and now I get this file to upload that won\'t....

regards

Tim
13) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unable to upload finished results (Message 28732)
Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:
\"mo.v\" wrote:
Yes thank you Tim, that\'s very helpful. I didn\'t notice I had to look for your model on the BBC site, sorry.

Regarding the _13 upload, I\'ve checked on the model\'s trickles and going by the timesteps recorded it looks as if it reached 2050 and trickled for that year on 30 April. The server must have been accepting trickles but not file uploads. The two-week timeout period starts when the file first attempts to upload. The upload of this _13 zip file was abandoned on 14 May which is 2 weeks later. This is really unfortunate because as you say, the file is gone and can\'t be retrieved. Even if you restored a backup from before the creation date of the _13 file, the file wouldn\'t be created again second time round. The trickle would, but not the zip file.


Understood - I\'ve made a backup of the _14.zip file so, if there\'s another mechanism to upload it (email?), then of course that route can be taken. Of course, if this is now an on-going issue, then once the WU is finshed (468 hours time), then I may have a few ZIP files to send !!


\"mo.v\" wrote:
I\'m going to ask the programmers whether a longer deadline for the upload of these zip files can be written into the code for future models.

Because your model\'s so near the end, I don\'t think you should abandon it because of this. I\'m pretty sure that some models that missed their 2040 zip upload have been included in the overall results.


Don\'ty worry - I know the importance of completing the entire WU...and after 3966 hours of crunching, I\'m not going to stop now.

I doubt there\'s much point to making a programming change, as the BBC project is nearing it\'s end UNLESS of course this is a common problem affecting other crunchers....although why it\'s taken until now to surface is a bit of a concern...how many other \"ZIP\" files have \"vanished\" because people assumed that once it had left the \"transfers\" tab, it had been uploaded (although it had been deleted !!).

And we all know about teh lack of resources of BOINC projects (in most cases) but this highlights a big concern, that all this work being done is for \"nought\" if the projects severs are \"down\" for any length of time.

Maybe there should be a central \"back-up\" server, operated jointly by all BOINC projects so, if a specific server failed, at least another upload route is available....? This degree of \"redundancy\" can then prevent lost WUs - and they can be re-sent from the central server to the specific projects once their own servers are back up.

\"mo.v\" wrote:
So you have to get the _14 zip file to Oxford. I\'ve just looked at the BBC server status and it\'s all GO. The http error in the messages looks like a firewall problem. \'Access to reference site succeeded\' means that your internet connection can contact Google, ie it\'s working, but can\'t connect to the BBC server.


Still no joy - just tried it....!

\"mo.v\" wrote:
Look please at this

http://www.climateprediction.net/board/viewtopic.php?p=53711&highlight=http#53711

Hope that helps.


Well, I switched the XP firewall off, shut down BOINC and restarted it. Still stuck and I\'m getting the same http error.

What\'s strange is that other projects are uploading files OK and nothing has changed on my PC or router for ages....OK, so maybe a Windows Update might have changed something, so I\'ll take a look for that.

My router firewall only blocks incoming stuff.

Of course, it might be my ISP who is blocking things....however, where on earth do I find out the upload server URL\'s in order to check things? If I can find out the correct upload URL, then I can do a simple \"ping\" and \"traceroute\" to establish that they can be seen external to BOINC Manager...that at least might help to confirm where the problem might lie.

regards

Tim
14) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unable to upload finished results (Message 28720)
Posted 15 May 2007 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:
\"mo.v\" wrote:
Double-click on stdoutdae.text to look at the messages contents
Tell us what you find


Ok, here\'s the relevant section:


2007-05-14 13:05:59 [---] Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
2007-05-14 13:05:59 [BBC Climate Change Experiment] [file_xfer] Started upload of file hadcm3ln_8gvu_00634304_0_13.zip
2007-05-14 13:06:04 [---] Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2007-05-14 13:06:04 [BBC Climate Change Experiment] [file_xfer] Temporarily failed upload of hadcm3ln_8gvu_00634304_0_13.zip: http error
2007-05-14 13:06:04 [BBC Climate Change Experiment] Giving up on upload of hadcm3ln_8gvu_00634304_0_13.zip: too much elapsed time
2007-05-14 13:06:06 [---] Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.


The _13.zip file is now nowhere to be found on my PC, so must have been deleted.

\"mo.v\" wrote:
The BBC server status now looks OK:
http://bbc.cpdn.org/server_status.php
Have you tried to upload your _14 file again?


Glad to hear it\'s working....but I still get (as of now):


16/05/2007 00:27:10|BBC Climate Change Experiment|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed upload of hadcm3ln_8gvu_00634304_0_14.zip: http error
16/05/2007 00:27:11|BBC Climate Change Experiment|[file_xfer] Started upload of file hadcm3ln_8gvu_00634304_0_14.zip
16/05/2007 00:27:16||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
16/05/2007 00:27:16|BBC Climate Change Experiment|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed upload of hadcm3ln_8gvu_00634304_0_14.zip: http error
16/05/2007 00:27:16|BBC Climate Change Experiment|Backing off 2 hr 47 min 27 sec on upload of file hadcm3ln_8gvu_00634304_0_14.zip
16/05/2007 00:27:17||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
16/05/2007 00:28:38|BBC Climate Change Experiment|[file_xfer] Started upload of file hadcm3ln_8gvu_00634304_0_14.zip
16/05/2007 00:28:43||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
16/05/2007 00:28:43|BBC Climate Change Experiment|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed upload of hadcm3ln_8gvu_00634304_0_14.zip: http error
16/05/2007 00:28:44||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
16/05/2007 00:28:44|BBC Climate Change Experiment|[file_xfer] Started upload of file hadcm3ln_8gvu_00634304_0_14.zip
16/05/2007 00:28:49||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
16/05/2007 00:28:49|BBC Climate Change Experiment|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed upload of hadcm3ln_8gvu_00634304_0_14.zip: http error
16/05/2007 00:28:49|BBC Climate Change Experiment|Backing off 35 min 27 sec on upload of file hadcm3ln_8gvu_00634304_0_14.zip

....

\"mo.v\" wrote:
I tried to look at the server pages for you model to check on the dates and trickles. Your computer/s are hidden. It would help us get to the bottom of what happened to that file if you please unhide your computer, at least for the time being.


Er, nope - my (single) PC crunching on BBC project is NOT hidden - but my CPDN project PC was hidden...but that\'s not the project for which I have an issue !! It\'s BBC WU \"ZIP\" file that won\'t upload (but trickles do !!, as I\'m getting credits for the work returned).

(This is the link to the name of the WU, for which the ZIP file that won\'t upload: http://bbc.cpdn.org/workunit.php?wuid=644462

Hope all the above helps...!

regards

Tim
15) Questions and Answers : Windows : Unable to upload finished results (Message 28690)
Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:
Hi all,

I\'ve read that \"Milo\" has made some space on the server (11th May 2007), but as of today and for the last few days, I keep getting these error messages:

14/05/2007 17:17:48|BBC Climate Change Experiment|[file_xfer] Started upload of file hadcm3ln_8gvu_00634304_0_14.zip
14/05/2007 17:17:53||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
14/05/2007 17:17:53|BBC Climate Change Experiment|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed upload of hadcm3ln_8gvu_00634304_0_14.zip: http error
14/05/2007 17:17:54||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
14/05/2007 17:17:54|BBC Climate Change Experiment|[file_xfer] Started upload of file hadcm3ln_8gvu_00634304_0_14.zip
14/05/2007 17:17:59||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
14/05/2007 17:17:59|BBC Climate Change Experiment|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed upload of hadcm3ln_8gvu_00634304_0_14.zip: http error
14/05/2007 17:17:59|BBC Climate Change Experiment|Backing off 1 hr 30 min 7 sec on upload of file hadcm3ln_8gvu_00634304_0_14.zip
14/05/2007 17:18:00||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.



Edit: I now find out that there is a 14 day retry limit of uploading these ZIP files. So, I now think that the previous 0_13.zip file is now lost - it was \"stuck\" and disappeared from the \"transfer\" window recently. So I thought \"great\" - it\'s been uploaded. But chances are that\'s it\'s been deleted by BOINC Manager....

So, this now really sucks as a LONG BBC WU will now be incomplete due to some external issue....

/Edit

Uploading to other projects is not a problem.
Trickles to (and credits from) BBC project site are fine.
BOINC version is 5.8.16

So, is this another CPDN project server related issue or what?

regards

Tim
(PS Sorry if this is the wrong thread, but the posting shown here:
http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/forum_thread.php?id=5447
cannot be replied to !! (Mods only??)
16) Message boards : Number crunching : First phase of migration of BBC/CCE to cpdn and standard version of boinc (Message 26252)
Posted 21 Jan 2007 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:
...So spinups & classic CPDN will be counted back in here, and also the current & future beta tests.........The BBC & Seasonal credits will show up for \"display purposes only\" here, and the stats sites of course will carry this site & the BBC & Seasonal projects for intercomparisons as well.


Excellent. Good sense has prevailed !!

Well done for taking the time to listen to members and acting accordingly in a common sense manner..

regards

Tim
17) Message boards : Number crunching : First phase of migration of BBC/CCE to cpdn and standard version of boinc (Message 26227)
Posted 21 Jan 2007 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:
It\'s being discussed.
Carl is considering other possibilities.


Well, all I can add is \"if it ain\'t broke, don\'t fix it\"....

What IS the point of migration? Why not just leave the BBC project (and the stats so generated) as separate entities?

Is there any REAL benefit to combining them....? I can see lots of reasons for leaving the CPDN projects as they are...apart from the fact that nothing needs to be done (although that maybe too late now, after what happened this evening....).

regards

Tim

18) Message boards : Number crunching : Team credits - has there been a change? (Message 21364)
Posted 16 Mar 2006 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:


OK - I figured out that the team member usernames are added to the CPDN project site in almost \"realtime\".

But any credits that new members bring to the team are only updated maybe twice a day.

So, there is a disparity for a period of upto 12-13 hours between a new member joining a team and their CPDN credits then being added to the teams total.


And the stats sites are some time behind that, depending on when the XML\'s are exported and the stats site has done their calucualtions....


So, it\'s all a bit \"loopy\".

I thought computers were s\'posed to speed things up - bring back the abacus and the sliderule...!

regards for the replies anyways.

Tim
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Team credits - has there been a change? (Message 21341)
Posted 16 Mar 2006 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:
Hi,

In the past, CPDN credits awarded while a cruncher was a member of a team, left the team if the member joined another team.

My team (UK BOINC Team) noticed this about a month or so ago, when one of our team members left, taking ALL of the 250,000+ CPDN credits with them. The team this member then joined, then received ALL of these credits.

- Has this policy changed recently (if so, when??).

- Are credits now retained by the team, if a member leaves, or are they all lost and hence are deducted from the teams total.


Needless to say, other BOINC projects allow a team to retain the credits that were earned while a cruncher was a member of that team.



regards,

Tim
Founder, UK BOINC Team
http://www.ukboincteam.org.uk/uk-boinc-team.html

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20) Questions and Answers : Getting started : CPDN / BBC project (Message 20180)
Posted 14 Feb 2006 by Profile UBT - Timbo
Post:
To Admins:

Anyone know what happens if you are already a registered BONC user and want to run the CPDN/ BBC project just announced ? http://bbc.cpdn.org.index.php.

It seems to be a separate download, so one assumes it is like running a completely separate project.

Anyone care to confirm?

regards

Timbo


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