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Message 58159 - Posted: 30 Apr 2018, 19:30:46 UTC
Last modified: 30 Apr 2018, 19:33:21 UTC

Hi all

I recently re-started crunching some CPDN tasks and one was recently finished and uploaded.

After 330,000 seconds of crunching, I received ZERO credit.

The info is here:

Task Work unit Computer Sent Time Status Run time(sec) CPU time(sec) Credit Application
21158514 1447961 22 Apr 2018, 10:57:35 UTC 27 Apr 2018, 12:02:30 UTC Completed 330,953.55 309,575.80 0.00 Weather At Home 2 (wah2) v8.24
windows_intelx86


All the trickles seems to have been uploaded too:

Latest Trickles Received
Time Sent (UTC) Host ID Result ID Result Name Phase Timestep CPU Time (sec) Average (sec/TS)
28 Apr 2018 04:27:38 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 276,779 309,528 1.1183
28 Apr 2018 03:47:50 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 265,259 294,130 1.1088
28 Apr 2018 02:50:29 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 253,739 279,049 1.0997
28 Apr 2018 02:20:36 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 242,219 263,946 1.0897
28 Apr 2018 01:29:42 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 230,699 248,876 1.0788
28 Apr 2018 00:35:54 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 219,179 233,856 1.0670
27 Apr 2018 23:51:22 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 207,659 218,947 1.0544
27 Apr 2018 23:17:36 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 196,139 205,740 1.0489
27 Apr 2018 22:42:31 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 184,619 192,045 1.0402
27 Apr 2018 22:08:52 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 173,099 179,480 1.0369
27 Apr 2018 21:33:50 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 161,579 168,029 1.0399
27 Apr 2018 21:07:20 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 150,059 156,711 1.0443
27 Apr 2018 20:33:07 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 138,539 145,578 1.0508
27 Apr 2018 20:11:58 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 127,019 134,343 1.0577
27 Apr 2018 19:43:20 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 115,499 123,194 1.0666
27 Apr 2018 19:13:34 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 103,979 112,047 1.0776
27 Apr 2018 18:20:32 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 92,459 100,598 1.0880
24 Apr 2018 18:16:12 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 80,939 89,150 1.1014
24 Apr 2018 14:43:58 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 69,419 77,437 1.1155
24 Apr 2018 11:18:09 1447961 21158514 wah2_pnw25_s5yj_199512_24_723_011526484_1 1 57,899 65,993 1.1398


The quorum seems to be set to "1", but this task is still waiting validation...

minimum quorum 1
initial replication 1
max # of error/total/success tasks 3, 3, 1
validation Pending


I know we're running on the backup server but basic simple operations should be running OK such as website, forums and validation of returned tasks ?
regards,
Tim

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Message 58160 - Posted: 30 Apr 2018, 22:11:40 UTC

"Validation" as used in the BOINC system, is where 2 copies of a data set are run on 2 different computers and the results compared.
cpdn doesn't and can't do this, as it only takes the slight difference between computers to produce 2 different results.

Experiments by the project people over a decade ago showed that the 2 different results was similar to what would be produced by 2 slightly different data sets, so forget about the word "validation".
Checks are done in numerous ways by the researchers using statistical methods, and none of this is seen by the crunchers.

The credit system only runs on the weekends these days, and until the entire maintenance/repair/upgrade is complete, don't expect the credit system to be run.

As for running models at the moment, what's being downloaded is not necessarily of any use. And none the of information on any of the pages is necessarily correct. It may be coming from old files.

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Message 58161 - Posted: 30 Apr 2018, 22:19:47 UTC - in response to Message 58159.  

No surprise that. The database is down and we're being supported on the backup database. Hence, not all functions are currently supported.

By the way, I have more than a hundred tasks run and uploaded -- all without credit updates. Frankly, I don't care about credits but am confident they will occur for everyone when problems are corrected. They always have been.

The topic is discussed, under obvious headings, in other threads.
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