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Message 46678 - Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 4:10:26 UTC
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Hello!
The server does not accept trickles since 11 or 12 July.
Here is an example.
Or they are not shown on the task pages.
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Message 46679 - Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 5:07:28 UTC - in response to Message 46678.  

The server programs are still catching up.

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Message 46680 - Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 9:05:18 UTC

I too am missing trickles.

All trickles sent after 11/7/13 are not shown for this task: http://climateapps2.oerc.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/result.php?resultid=15880463

The task is now completed and the credit is less than half of similar tasks.

I am guessing that credit is awarded on receipt of trickles and that everything will show up normal when the server catches up with the backlog.

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Message 46681 - Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 9:40:50 UTC - in response to Message 46680.  

... I am guessing that credit is awarded on receipt of trickles and that everything will show up normal when the server catches up with the backlog.

... your guess is right: that is exactly what will happen.
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Message 46682 - Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 16:31:22 UTC - in response to Message 46681.  
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... I am guessing that credit is awarded on receipt of trickles and that everything will show up normal when the server catches up with the backlog.

... your guess is right: that is exactly what will happen.

... and has just happened for one of my stalled models - hadcm3n_o4na_1980_40_008385957_2 - which is a relief because it took four goes to get that one to finish without an error (the machine is failing and will shortly be retired).
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Message 46683 - Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 22:00:31 UTC

All of my trickles showed up about 8 hours ago, so the recovery is progressing as expected.
Next will be the trickles-to-credits script, which may be "tomorrow" UK time.

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Message 46684 - Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 22:20:25 UTC - in response to Message 46683.  

And mine,

Now I am just waiting till next decade points to see if the power surges which have made the house circuit breakers trip twice this evening and hence computer turn off have done any damage.
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Message 46685 - Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 23:07:34 UTC - in response to Message 46683.  

All of my trickles showed up about 8 hours ago, so the recovery is progressing as expected.
Next will be the trickles-to-credits script, which may be "tomorrow" UK time.



I happened to look at my account page about 3 minutes before "tomorrow" BST - now today July 24 BST.
Big pile of credit had recently appeared there - :)
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Message 46686 - Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 23:51:41 UTC

AH, yes. Those on one of my computers have all of their credits, and the other one has partial credits for it's models.

So it's "a work in progress".

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Message 46688 - Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 3:20:07 UTC

I can see that the trickles must be registering. The RAC curve in the �Statistics� tab that had dropped from over 1500 down to nearly 500 over the last week is now back up to 1100. So the trickles and zip files must have been recorded (I did have some trepidation that they might just be disappearing into cyber-limbo) and are now being used to award credits.

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Message 46690 - Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 7:04:53 UTC

Yes, for RAPIT models task pages and trickles are Ok again.
For Regional HADAM models I must say No!
Task pages are still blocked, so the situation about trickles for these models is unclear.
And this is very old problem, still unsolved. Unfortunately.
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Message 46691 - Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 9:04:22 UTC - in response to Message 46690.  

Trickles are there for my running regional tasks. My RAC hasn't started going back up yet - give it time. The only regional model on my machine having a blocked page is that from one of the failed download models dating back to 2012. I can't remember if they clean up on their own or if I have to do it myself - will wait a few days and if by then it hasn't gone and cleaned up it's folder I will do so myself.
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Message 46692 - Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 11:03:15 UTC - in response to Message 46691.  

The failed download eu model has cleaned itself up. However looking I did find a cm3n that hadn't. As that machine is a dual core atom netbook I have now restricted it to regional models only. Desktop machine has sent trickle up from larger model but still no change in my total credit yet. As Les Baylis has had some of his credited, perhaps they are doing it in alphabetical order?
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Message 46701 - Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 23:19:20 UTC - in response to Message 46692.  

And they have now reached J or my RAC has just gone up by a factor of about 4 :)
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Message 46703 - Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 23:59:41 UTC - in response to Message 46692.  
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From memory, (and this is from years ago, so may be wrong or changed), the trickles are processed in the order they're received.
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