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Message 46329 - Posted: 31 May 2013, 15:23:19 UTC


Can you give it another go, and let us know the outcome? Apparently there was both a hardware failure and also a missing script.



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Message 46330 - Posted: 31 May 2013, 20:39:48 UTC

Hey guys,

Tried several times again just now and still not able to reattach to the project. I am able to get past the Identify Account screen, but the I get a message stating "Failed to add project". "An error has occurred; check the Event Log for details."

Well, the only thing the Event Log is telling me is this: "Fetching configuration file from http://climateprediction.net/get_project_config.php". Apparently it is NOT fetching the configuration file. Bummer...

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Message 46331 - Posted: 31 May 2013, 22:53:18 UTC - in response to Message 46330.  

There's a couple of things to try.
1) Reboot computer. (And hence also BOINC.)
2) Some cc_config options.


Starting with the first - (my method):
A) Set all projects to NNW.
B) Look at the graphics for the climate models still running, and wait until each is well clear of Savepoint. (e.g In the 60's, to above the teen's) Wait otherwise.
This makes it safest for not crashing due to disk activity.

C) When safe, Suspend the model.
D) When all are Suspended, (and depending on requirements of work from other projects), Suspend BOINC.
E) Exit from BOINC.
F) Reboot the computer.
G) Restart BOINC.
H) Unsuspend each model.
I) Set projects to Allow new tasks.

Now try to Attach.



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Message 46333 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 1:48:48 UTC

Are you installing BOINC in a local account or one of the MS Live accounts they try pushing on people? Win8 is known for having problems with BOINC in the MS Live accounts and you didn't say if you were logging in this way or not.

Also, can you attach to any other projects?
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Message 46334 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 3:39:44 UTC - in response to Message 46333.  

Coleslaw

The recent posters are using Win7, except for one using Server 2008.
And they're reported that they can attach to other projects.

The problems are due to teething problems with the new project front end, which went live last weekend after extensive checking and updating of the science pages.
There was initially a script file missing, and then a VM failed. These have since been fixed.
So it just remains for one of the recent people that have been having difficulties attaching, to try again and report back.

If there no reports either way, this matter will be dropped until someone else DOES complain.



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Message 46337 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 8:50:51 UTC - in response to Message 46334.  
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... If there no reports either way, this matter will be dropped until someone else DOES complain.


Hi Les,

Kevin reported that he was still unable to attach (above, evening UK time, well after Jonathan's change), so not looking good. This is turning into a bit of a saga unfortunately.

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Message 46339 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 14:40:55 UTC
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I'm using BOINC Version 7.0.64 (x86) - - running as a single instillation - (not as a service)

... and Just out of curiosity I tried just now to attach one of my old Windows XP computers to climateprediction net ...

... and I get the same as every one else ... a no go __ :( _ ?





sorry _ :(
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Message 46340 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 16:09:16 UTC

Unless someone donates a very large sum of money to the project, issues such as this will only get resolved 9-5 Monday to Friday so I am afraid this will have to wait till Monday. At least on this occasion the problem occurred during working hours so the sorting it out has been started. Normally the problems occur initially at a weekend, more often than not a weekend that is extended by a public holiday.
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Message 46342 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 20:51:58 UTC - in response to Message 46339.  

Byron

Thanks for that. We needed a new test.
Please keep an eye on this thread, and we'll ask you for another test after some more thinking.


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Message 46345 - Posted: 2 Jun 2013, 12:17:06 UTC - in response to Message 46342.  

Thank you Les ... and yes I would be very happy to do an other another test when ever you ask. I'll keep an eye on this thread. I have subscribed to this thread so that I will receive an e mail to my in box when ever some one posts to this thread. I know ... and it's very sad that this worthwhile scientific project ... to investigating the fate of Earth ... is so very short of funds and staff ... Andy, Jonathan and the team at Oxford and around the world ... are doing the best they can.
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Message 46352 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 3:01:24 UTC - in response to Message 46298.  

That worked for me just now... but it's "--project_attach" not "--attach_project" (at least for the 64-bit Linux client I'm using anyway).
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Message 46353 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 8:46:05 UTC

Hi all,

just for info. I'm using CentOS 6.4 i368 and BOINC 6.10.45.
I can add this project (only) using boinccmd. But I don't get any tasks. The error log shows:

Invalid or missing account key. To fix, remove and add this project.


boinccmd --project_attach http://climateprediction.net 'ID (32 chars)'


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Message 46354 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 9:40:53 UTC

OK Chaps,

I have looked at this, and all I can see is that the new server sent the page with an explicit character set (utf-8) whereas the original page did not.

I have removed this character set from the HTTP header on the new server.

Could you please try again, attaching to the project?

It would be very very helpful to know if you can attach or not, on Linux, Mac OS or Windows (inc Versions), because it seems, from reading this thread, to be a problem with older Windows OS machines.


I look forward to hearing the results of the test.

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Message 46355 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 12:55:13 UTC - in response to Message 46354.  
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Hi Jonathan, thank you for your post,

I am running: BOINC Version 7.0.64 (x86) - running as a single instillation - (not as a service)

Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
BOINC version 7.0.64
Memory 3326.08 MB
Cache 2048 KB
Swap space 6231.79 MB
Total disk space 33.87 GB
Free Disk Space 9.47 GB

I tried again just now to test if I can attach my intell Dell Work Station OS: Windows XP Duel xeon CPU and I get:

Failed to add project
an error has occurred;
check event Log for details.

I check the BOINC event Log and I get only one Line of Message in the BOINC event log;

6/3/2013 5:47:39 AM | | Fetching configuration file from http://climateprediction.net/get_project_config.php

on this Computer ... do I have enough Free Disk Space - 9.47 GB - for climateprediction.net ?

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Message 46356 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 14:11:30 UTC


If you look in your 'Boinc data' directory (in different places depending on operating system / your configuration), you should find a file called get_project_config.xml.

This contains the contents of the file received from the server. It might be worth posting a copy to make sure it looks OK (do not post any other xml files, some of them contain sensitive info such as the boinc account key).



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Message 46357 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 14:28:43 UTC

Hey Jonathon,

On June 1st, Byron Leigh Hatch posted a couple of screen shots. This is what I am seeing as well when trying to attach to Climateprediction.net.

This is a new BOINC install.

I am running Windows 7 Ultimate (64bit)with SP1.
BOINC 7.0.64.
24GB RAM, 24GB PageFile, and plenty of hard drive free space.

I attempted to attach again this morning at was BOINC again failed to attach and said to see the event log. And this is all the event log shows:

6/3/2013 9:05:26 AM | | Fetching configuration file from http://climateprediction.net/get_project_config.php

My "get_project_config.xml":(Note, in place of "min_passwd_length" I typed in "XXX". Nothing else changed in this file as posted here.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
-<project_config><name>climateprediction.net</name><master_url>http://climateprediction.net/</master_url><local_revision>23845</local_revision><web_stopped>0</web_stopped><min_passwd_length>XXX</min_passwd_length><sched_stopped>0</sched_stopped>-<platforms>-<platform><platform_name>i686-apple-darwin</platform_name><user_friendly_name>Mac OS X Intel</user_friendly_name></platform>-<platform><platform_name>i686-pc-linux-gnu</platform_name><user_friendly_name>Linux/x86</user_friendly_name></platform>-<platform><platform_name>windows_intelx86</platform_name><user_friendly_name>Microsoft Windows (2000, XP, Vista)</user_friendly_name></platform></platforms></project_config>

Thanks,

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Message 46358 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 15:49:44 UTC - in response to Message 46356.  


<quote>
If you look in your 'Boinc data' directory (in different places depending on operating system
your configuration), you should find a file called get_project_config.xml.

This contains the contents of the file received from the server.
It might be worth posting a copy to make sure it looks OK
(do not post any other xml files,
some of them contain sensitive info such as the boinc account key).

</quote>

Hi Mike thanks for your post,

Here is what I see in my Boinc data' directory - get_project_config.xml ...

in place of "min_passwd_length" I also typed in "xxx".
Nothing else changed in this file as posted here.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1" ?>
- <project_config>
<name>climateprediction.net</name>
<master_url>http://climateprediction.net/</master_url>
<local_revision>23845</local_revision>
<web_stopped>0</web_stopped>
<min_passwd_length>xxx</min_passwd_length>
<sched_stopped>0</sched_stopped>
- <platforms>
- <platform>
<platform_name>i686-apple-darwin</platform_name>
<user_friendly_name>Mac OS X Intel</user_friendly_name>
</platform>
- <platform>
<platform_name>i686-pc-linux-gnu</platform_name>
<user_friendly_name>Linux/x86</user_friendly_name>
</platform>
- <platform>
<platform_name>windows_intelx86</platform_name>
<user_friendly_name>Microsoft Windows (2000, XP, Vista)</user_friendly_name>
</platform>
</platforms>
</project_config>


I hope this helps
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Message 46359 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 15:58:42 UTC

OK Chaps,

I am pretty sure that I know what the problem is, but I will have to write a script tomorrow to work around the current problem.

Long ago someone at CPDN decided not to use a dynamic server_status script, but to write that file out as HTML, and redirect users to that file.
The static page cannot respond to requests for the data to be output as XML, which is what clients request.

...so this problem should be sorted tomorrow.
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Message 46360 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 16:10:46 UTC




Hello Jonathan, Mike, Les and every one,

to get some ideas and suggessions I started a thread
over at the BOINC Message board
Called: Cannot attach to Climateprediction.net

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8435

Ageless aka Jord posted the following ideas and suggessions:


<quote>


It's a problem with the new front page of CPDN, not so much with the client.
An already added CPDN can easily be contacted by the client:


6/3/2013 3:55:08 PM | climateprediction.net | update requested by user
6/3/2013 3:55:10 PM | climateprediction.net | [sched_op] Starting scheduler request
6/3/2013 3:55:10 PM | climateprediction.net | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
6/3/2013 3:55:10 PM | climateprediction.net | Not requesting tasks: "no new tasks" requested via Manager
6/3/2013 3:55:10 PM | climateprediction.net | [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
6/3/2013 3:55:10 PM | climateprediction.net | [sched_op] ATI work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
6/3/2013 3:55:12 PM | climateprediction.net | Scheduler request completed
6/3/2013 3:55:12 PM | climateprediction.net | [sched_op] Server version 611
6/3/2013 3:55:12 PM | climateprediction.net | Project requested delay of 3636 seconds
6/3/2013 3:55:12 PM | climateprediction.net | [sched_op] Deferring communication for 01:00:36
6/3/2013 3:55:12 PM | climateprediction.net | [sched_op] Reason: requested by project


So the scheduler works.

Meaning that the 'add to project URL' (http://climateprediction.net/ in the case of BOINC Manager Add Project Tool)
may not be correct, or that the add-project logic on that web site is not correct.
Seeing how http://climateprediction.net/ gets me to the new CPDN front page,
I can only assume that the add-project logic is flawed.

</quote>


I hope this helps
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Message 46361 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 16:15:22 UTC



Oops sorry Jonathan, I was typing while you were posting,
I didn't see your post ... but thank you for your post

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