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Message 1853 - Posted: 27 Aug 2004, 9:20:43 UTC

Recently checked the \"Results\" section of my account and discovered two strange things.

First - I have 7(!?!) WUs in my list. Well, some crashes and experiments with BOINC led to this situation, I confess, but how to remove them from the account list while the client shows only one and works only one?

Second - those WUs from the account list: when I ckick on WU ID ALL of them are showing more than one host, two actually. One is mine and the other is uknown for me. Is it normal to asign experiments to two or more accounts for testing?

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Message 1854 - Posted: 27 Aug 2004, 9:37:41 UTC - in response to Message 1853.  


&gt; First - I have 7(!?!) WUs in my list. Well, some crashes and experiments with
&gt; BOINC led to this situation, I confess, but how to remove them from the
&gt; account list while the client shows only one and works only one?

You can't remove them. They were assigned to your computer. Whether or not you finished them makes no difference. They were assigned so they are associated with your computer.

&gt; Second - those WUs from the account list: when I ckick on WU ID ALL of them
&gt; are showing more than one host, two actually. One is mine and the other is
&gt; uknown for me. Is it normal to asign experiments to two or more accounts for
&gt; testing?

Not just testing. seti@home and predictor@home actually send all work units out to 3 people. Then they verify the results and credit is only granted if all three results agree with each other. CPDN had to take a little different approach due to the LONG duration of their work units. However this long duration also increases the chances that there will either be an error during computation or that the user will become bored and quit before it is done. Hence sending the work units out to 2 people from the start greatly reduces the chance of a work unit just being dropped and then having to be re-sent out at a later date. Also I'm sure under ideal circumstances they wouldn't mind having 2 results per model for error checking.
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Message 1856 - Posted: 27 Aug 2004, 9:42:21 UTC
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One, you need to merge your computer (host) from your users account page?

Two, since your computers, i.e CPU and OS (computers) are hidden there there is no where to start helping you. Do you have hyperthreading as an example? Are you using Windows? You may need to go into your projects folder and remove the offending WU's? Example C:/Project Files/Boinc/Projects/hadsmXXXX This should only be done as a last resort. Had you reset or detached?

Giving the necessary info is important to help fix a problem. Using the "Question &amp; Problems" thread would be a better way to go.

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Message 1858 - Posted: 27 Aug 2004, 9:47:54 UTC - in response to Message 1854.  

&gt; Not just testing. seti@home and predictor@home actually send all work units
&gt; out to 3 people. Then they verify the results and credit is only granted if
&gt; all three results agree with each other. CPDN had to take a little different
&gt; approach due to the LONG duration of their work units. However this long
&gt; duration also increases the chances that there will either be an error during
&gt; computation or that the user will become bored and quit before it is done.
&gt; Hence sending the work units out to 2 people from the start greatly reduces
&gt; the chance of a work unit just being dropped and then having to be re-sent out
&gt; at a later date. Also I'm sure under ideal circumstances they wouldn't mind
&gt; having 2 results per model for error checking.

All 7 of the units that Fram has been allocated had been recirculated (10 or 11 days) after the first host completed the job with a client error.

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Message 1859 - Posted: 27 Aug 2004, 9:55:06 UTC - in response to Message 1858.  

&gt; All 7 of the units that Fram has been allocated had been recirculated (10 or
&gt; 11 days) after the first host completed the job with a client error.

Oops. Guess I was wrong. I have had several work units error out myself and all of them had already been assigned to another host so I assumed all work units were just sent out to 2 hosts immediately. But looking at them again and comparing the sent/recieved dates, it is clear that you are right, Thyme.

That'll teach me to assume things! 'cause you know what happens when you assume things, right? :)

Ah... sense of humor is decaying. Time for bed.
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Message 1860 - Posted: 27 Aug 2004, 9:55:49 UTC - in response to Message 1856.  
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&gt; Two, since your computers, i.e CPU and OS (computers) are hidden there there
&gt; is no where to start helping you, Do you have hyperthreading as an example?
&gt; Are you using Windows? You may need to go into your projects folder and
&gt; remove the offending WU's. Example C:/Project Files/Boinc/Projects/hadsmXXXX

You can find out, but its not obvious, and I'm not sure if it's really intended ;-)

If you click on a trickle on the account data page and then on the host ID on the results page you can see the computer details (with owner listed as anonymous). You can see all units sent to that computer by clicking on the results link.

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Message 1861 - Posted: 27 Aug 2004, 9:56:05 UTC
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Toby, thank you for the explanation. :)
Dogbytes, Im sorry that my computers are hidden - its because of the LAN I belong. Im using WInXP SP1, ADM Barton. In my projects folder the only one WU is that actually calculated. The others dont exist on my hdd - only in the list in my account.
In fact that isnt a real problem for me. I meant that it might be a problem for CPDN :)

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Message 1862 - Posted: 27 Aug 2004, 9:58:59 UTC

Thyme Lawn, thank you too :)
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Message 1863 - Posted: 27 Aug 2004, 10:01:08 UTC
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Problem solved. Dobra!
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Message 1864 - Posted: 27 Aug 2004, 10:06:12 UTC - in response to Message 1858.  

&gt; All 7 of the units that Fram has been allocated had been recirculated (10 or
&gt; 11 days) after the first host completed the job with a client error.
&gt;
Does it mean that the WU Im doing right now is obsolete - the most recent 7th one?
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Message 1866 - Posted: 27 Aug 2004, 10:08:56 UTC - in response to Message 1863.  

&gt; Problem solved. Dobra!
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LOL Sounds almost like bulgarian "Dobre" :):):) Thanks, buddy :) :)
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Message 1867 - Posted: 27 Aug 2004, 10:19:53 UTC - in response to Message 1864.  

&gt; &gt; All 7 of the units that Fram has been allocated had been recirculated (10
&gt; or
&gt; &gt; 11 days) after the first host completed the job with a client error.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; Does it mean that the WU Im doing right now is obsolete - the most recent 7th
&gt; one?

No. One of your WUs is over with a client error, the others are still active. The one that's trickling will be fine, the others might eventually be tagged as over and get recirculated again.

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Message 1868 - Posted: 27 Aug 2004, 10:24:22 UTC - in response to Message 1867.  

&gt; No. One of your WUs is over with a client error, the others are still active.
&gt; The one that's trickling will be fine, the others might eventually be tagged
&gt; as over and get recirculated again.
&gt;
Thank you once again, Thyme Lawn :)
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Message 1871 - Posted: 27 Aug 2004, 10:45:26 UTC - in response to Message 1868.  
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&gt; Thank you once again, Thyme Lawn :)

My pleasure, Fram. And if you're looking to join a team you could always click on the image below ;-)

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Message 1925 - Posted: 27 Aug 2004, 20:35:22 UTC - in response to Message 1871.  

&gt; &gt; Thank you once again, Thyme Lawn :)
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&gt; My pleasure, Fram. And if you're looking to join a team you could always
&gt; click on the image below ;-)
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Thanks for the invitation :)
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