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Message 9387 - Posted: 16 Feb 2005, 7:41:25 UTC

I am running a Mac Ibook. Am currently at 39999 steps and have not trickled yet.

I have no firewalls set and have no trickle* files accumulating (that I am aware of anyway). and updating my _prefs doesn't work either.

I missed the first trickle (I wasn't online) but it hasn't seem to have trickled even when my timing was right.

Is this a problem?
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Message 9388 - Posted: 16 Feb 2005, 8:27:25 UTC
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Trickles will accumulate until you logon to the net and then upload.
Not sure about Mac's, but in Windows they are in the climateprediction.net folder.
As Mac's only have command line access, I'm not sure if there is an equivilent to the windows option:
Disable BOINC network access

This stops BOINC from talking to the servers until you let it. You may have something wrong here.

However there are NO trickles on your Account data page, and you should have about 3 by now, so you MAY have a problem.

I've heard that if you don't trickle for 6 weeks, the server considers the model lost, and re-sends it to
another user, up to a maximum of 5 times. But you can still keep crunching it, and surprise the server later.

It should be possible to force an upload, but I can't find the ref for Mac's.
If you look through the threads, you may find it.

Repost if this doesn't help.

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Message 9403 - Posted: 16 Feb 2005, 17:54:41 UTC

Sorry, it should have been Update, not Upload :( Been a long day.

There are some commands <a href="http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/forum_thread.php?id=768"> Here</a>

Perhaps this one:
-return_results_immediately

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Message 9498 - Posted: 18 Feb 2005, 8:02:05 UTC - in response to Message 9388.  

&gt; Trickles will accumulate until you logon to the net and then upload.
&gt; Not sure about Mac's, but in Windows they are in the climateprediction.net
&gt; folder.
&gt; As Mac's only have command line access, I'm not sure if there is an equivilent
&gt; to the windows option:
&gt; Disable BOINC network access
&gt;
&gt; This stops BOINC from talking to the servers until you let it. You may have
&gt; something wrong here.
&gt;
&gt; However there are NO trickles on your Account data page, and you should have
&gt; about 3 by now, so you MAY have a problem.
&gt;
&gt; I've heard that if you don't trickle for 6 weeks, the server considers the
&gt; model lost, and re-sends it to
&gt; another user, up to a maximum of 5 times. But you can still keep crunching it,
&gt; and surprise the server later.
&gt;
&gt; It should be possible to force an upload, but I can't find the ref for Mac's.
&gt; If you look through the threads, you may find it.
&gt;
&gt; Repost if this doesn't help.
&gt;
&gt; Les
&gt;
&gt;

Thanks for your advice - but none of the command lines seem to let me trickle.

I really hope I don't have a problem. Does anyone else have ideas?
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Message 11601 - Posted: 4 Apr 2005, 3:59:06 UTC - in response to Message 9388.  

&gt; My situation is similar. I had one trickle within 10 days of joining BOINC. However, in the last 8 wks, nothing - no trickles, seemingly no productivity. Is it working. Is anything happening. Should I just be patient, or is there something I need to do, to upload what's been done so far??? How about some advice for folks like us?

Trickles will accumulate until you logon to the net and then upload.
&gt; Not sure about Mac's, but in Windows they are in the climateprediction.net
&gt; folder.
&gt; As Mac's only have command line access, I'm not sure if there is an equivilent
&gt; to the windows option:
&gt; Disable BOINC network access
&gt;
&gt; This stops BOINC from talking to the servers until you let it. You may have
&gt; something wrong here.
&gt;
&gt; However there are NO trickles on your Account data page, and you should have
&gt; about 3 by now, so you MAY have a problem.
&gt;
&gt; I've heard that if you don't trickle for 6 weeks, the server considers the
&gt; model lost, and re-sends it to
&gt; another user, up to a maximum of 5 times. But you can still keep crunching it,
&gt; and surprise the server later.
&gt;
&gt; It should be possible to force an upload, but I can't find the ref for Mac's.
&gt; If you look through the threads, you may find it.
&gt;
&gt; Repost if this doesn't help.
&gt;
&gt; Les
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
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Message 11739 - Posted: 10 Apr 2005, 14:04:31 UTC

One way to check and see if you are actually calculating anything is to go to Applications/Utilities and open Activity Monitor. In the top right corner, pull down and select My Processes. You should be able to see the CPDN process calculating - it's probably called "hadsm..." and it should be using 90-95% of your CPU cycles, when nothing else is running.

If you are using Terminal to run CPDN, you should actually see the interim calculation results in the terminal window.

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Message 11740 - Posted: 10 Apr 2005, 15:29:10 UTC - in response to Message 11739.  

&gt; One way to check and see if you are actually calculating anything is to go to
&gt; Applications/Utilities and open Activity Monitor. In the top right corner,
&gt; pull down and select My Processes. You should be able to see the CPDN process
&gt; calculating - it's probably called "hadsm..." and it should be using 90-95% of
&gt; your CPU cycles, when nothing else is running.
&gt;
&gt; If you are using Terminal to run CPDN, you should actually see the interim
&gt; calculation results in the terminal window.
&gt;
&gt; C
&gt;Excellent information. Thank you. (And in way less time than 54 days!)

I tried both Activity Monitor (no evidence of activity whatsoever). In Terminal I got the following in the window:

Terminal-bash-80X24
last login: wed. Apr 6 08:07:37 on console
Welcome to Darwin!
string of numbers ~ggmckenzie$

This seems to imply that I am connected, but perhaps not calculating. What do I do now?? If it means re-subscribing, is there a way to continue the piece that I've already started?
Greg McKenzie
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